[ SECRET POST #2773 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2773 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Maplestory]


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(Ted and Ralph, The Fast Show)


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[Big Hero 6]


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[Law & Order: Criminal Intent]


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[Arashi no Yoru ni]


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07. http://i.imgur.com/QnC2dWq.jpg
[Hannibal, linked for nudity and gore]


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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: Fanfiction dealbreakers

[jaybie_jarrett]

Hm just curious what if it's a background canon character given a bf/gf? Cause One of my all time favorite fics had that happen and it worked for the story excellently. The character was plausible and decent. It never once crossed my mind that the character was an self insert (because the writer was female and the character was a dude)

(the fic for reference- http://archiveofourown.org/works/102205/chapters/140454)

Just saying. I can understand being wary if like the OC gets with the MAIN character and it's the focal point of the story, but...I don't see why ANY canon character can never paired with an OC EVER EVER EVER.

I'm not saying that everyone should HAVE to enjoy it. But I don't think ALL canon character x OC automatically means Self insert.

Re: Fanfiction dealbreakers

[silverr]

Yeah, for me, background mentions/passing cameos are okay, but putting a Canon+OC front and center in a story or an RP blog ... nope nope nope. Absolutely DNW.

Re: Fanfiction dealbreakers

[jaybie_jarrett]

Oh I understand that you're not into it.

I was just replying to the other person who said it automatically meant self insert. It's one thing to say "I don't like to read that" it's another to say "the author must be basing the character off themselves."

Re: Fanfiction dealbreakers

[silverr]

I'd also say that, at least in the few fandoms I've been in, doing OCs well is the exception and not the rule. (But then I read very little fanfiction anyhow.)

Re: Fanfiction dealbreakers

[jaybie_jarrett]

Ah.

*shrug* I suppose. In my experience I've managed to find quite a few gems. Different opinions and all.

Also I find "it must be a self insert" accusations to be tiring. Like "GUYS, you can make a crappy character without basing it off yourself".

Re: Fanfiction dealbreakers

[silverr]

Yeah, completely. I don't toss that accusation, mostly because in one sense I believe that almost every character winds up being fueled off something in the author anyhow.

(I love original characters iun original fiction: I just personally don't care for them in my fanfiction unless they are bit parts moving the plot along — which is how I generally use OCs myself.)

Re: Fanfiction dealbreakers

[jaybie_jarrett]

Ah.

Well I can understand that, totally.

and yeah I agree with you, about characters. I know that if I get deep enough into any character of mine, there's something in there that's mine. Something that I can get close to and understand when I write them.

Re: Fanfiction dealbreakers

[silverr]

I always think of it like Method Acting: you need to find something in yourself, some emotion that connects you to the character, (in quality if not degree) in order to really bring them to life in your mind. But then I think that many characters who snag our attention do so because we're making that association anyhow, even if it is subliminally.

Re: Fanfiction dealbreakers

[jaybie_jarrett]

That makes sense. It sounds like how I write emotional scenes. I try to think of a time when I'm feeling that emotion and the write from that memory. I feel like writing that way make scenes a lot more genuine.

Re: Fanfiction dealbreakers

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah but most fanfic writers don't even have the creativity to make something original in its awfulness.

Re: Fanfiction dealbreakers

[jaybie_jarrett]

Eh.. I suppose. I mean there are a lot of beginners that start with fanfic.

Re: Fanfiction dealbreakers

[(Anonymous)]

Yep. And pairing an OC with a main canon character is usually a huge no-no.

Re: Fanfiction dealbreakers

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, while that does happen, it's not a given. And what if it's a minor character who you don't have anyone TO ship with in canon anyway? I think that's an unfair generalization, even if it isn't entirely unfounded.

Re: Fanfiction dealbreakers

[jaybie_jarrett]

I see "self insert" bandied around so much when it comes to OCs and I feel like it's kinda ridiculous to be honest. Part of what bothers me is that it assumes that all Mary Sue characters are self inserts. And it's like "guys, you do realize you CAN make a crappy character that isn't based off you. It is possible"

Like I can see how someone assuming that a lot of self inserts will be Mary Sues (although I don't believe Mary Sue=/=Self Insert ,just that self inserts can be hard to pull off) and being wary. But I don't get the idea that a character with Mary Sue tendencies is ALWAYS based off the creator automatically.

I figure it's just something that some people say to be insulting and scathing. "Ohh you have an OC, they're probably a self insert who's hooked up with your favorite guy" I guess they think it's a good insult or something but IMO it's really dumb.