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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-14 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #2781 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2781 ⌋

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raspberryrain: (side eye)

Ah, so.

[personal profile] raspberryrain 2014-08-16 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
I see what you mean. Dothraki is something people would have heard of because of the tv series. (I know several fans of the books, but it seems like the tv series dramatically increased GRRM's profile.)

It just surprised me. I know Klingon speakers (well, they know some phrases anyway), and I've actually used lexicons of the Tolkienian languages to name...things. And those "fictional" languages have been around for decades. I didn't even suspect Dothraki was even a thing on that level, as opposed to just a writer's system of making new words for his imaginary culture.

I'm relieved by your last sentence. The idea that anything GRRM created would pass Loglan in linguistics use just bugs me somehow, and I don't even speak Loglan.
nyxelestia: Rose Icon (Default)

Re: Ah, so.

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-08-16 01:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, like I said above, he didn't make Dothraki. It was made by a professional conlanger, David Thompson I think? Not sure, I mostly know him by his online handle (dedlavs). From what I know, GRRM originally just wrote "translations" from POV characters (i.e. "Drogo said XYZ, Iain Glen said it meant this, etc.") and/or he made up some phrases, but then the show needed an actual language, so dedlavs made Dothraki, and since then GRRM has been using it in his books, and/or more recent printings of the earlier books include that. I know that it doesn't always work when he tries to use it, though (as dedlavs pointed out/commented on on his Tumblr, which is under that handle).

Meanwhile, at my behest on Facebook, he made an entire post on Tumblr about the language he developed for the Dark Elves in Thor 2. It was only a few phrases, but he had it very well developed (including its origins in/parallels with real life Finnic-Urgalic languages - historically, the Finns and the Norse didn't always get along). :) I honestly wouldn't be surprised to find out more Americans know about this obscure language than Bengali or Basque or Xhosa.

But yay for pop culture promoting recreational linguistics, at least? :P