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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-16 03:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #2783 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2783 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-08-16 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
2 lesbian 4 u

(Anonymous) 2014-08-16 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
That *is* a rather odd reason, OP. Now I might get the book myself and try to see what was up with it.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-18 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
This book is a great book! I do so hope you enjoy it.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-16 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been wanting to read this for years now but haven't gotten around to it. What exactly made it too lesbian? Was it the simple fact that the two main characters became canon? Have you had this issue with representation in other books?

op

(Anonymous) 2014-08-16 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess the lesbian being actually textual instead of "subtext". suddenly the romantical happiness of a pair I was actually invested in was endangered by the plot.

no, but I normally don't read books where romance is a central (dramatic) focus.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-16 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I always remember this as a very emotionally intense and draining book, so I can understand what you say about it making you feel too strongly. The 'too lesbian' comment is a bit beyond me, but to each their own etc. It's still the first book I recommend to anyone who asks.
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[personal profile] elaminator 2014-08-16 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
The repetition of 'too lesbian for me' is cracking me up, though I don't understand that statement at all and now sort of want to read it and drown in the sadness. (And lesbians.)
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[personal profile] silvereriena 2014-08-16 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Same. I got a chuckle out of it (and OT but is that an In The Flesh icon? Eeeeh).

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(Anonymous) 2014-08-16 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I...wow

(Anonymous) 2014-08-16 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
It's almost like you're saying the book is too good/moving, but then why not pay money to the author?

(Anonymous) 2014-08-16 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
too stingy to pay for a book I won't read

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[personal profile] bio_obscura 2014-08-16 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I never read this one, but I didn't like Tipping the Velvet much. It was just so miserable and melodramatic. Even when there were saucy bits (that I assumed were supposed to be saucy, anyway), they were kind of depressing.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-16 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I 100% get you OP. Not sure if I ever quit books over it, but ships that I was invested into becoming canon always upsets me more than any fiction should. Especially if they're gay and I identify with them, and I know that writers love to play gay love for drama. It's like tempting fate. And yeah it's very embarrassing.

your daily immature reply

(Anonymous) 2014-08-16 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
hahahahah "fingersmith"

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[personal profile] silvereriena 2014-08-16 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you tried watching the TV series, OP? Maybe it'll feel different experiencing the story through a different medium.
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[personal profile] tcex28 2014-08-16 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I had to do this book for my English Lit coursework. It's awesome.

But I can sort of understand freaking out when something suddenly goes queer for real, and because that's so personal to you you're all worried about whether it will turn out well/be handled well/be horribly devastating and so on, instead of having the safety of it just being in your head.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-17 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
Then you're probably not a dyke afterall.
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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2014-08-17 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure something being "too lesbian" is a good problem to have.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-08-17 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
...huh.

I read it, and I shipped it, and I'm not even lesbian or really into femslash. I just thought it was a good pairing with good dynamics. But then, I like shippy stuff, I like good pairings regardless of whether they're f/f, m/f or m/m, and I like my pairings to be canon (though it's not a requirement or anything).

Maybe it's not that it's "too lesbian" so much as that you don't really like your preferred pairings to be canon because of the danger that puts them in from the author (even though you know they got their happy ending in this one)?

(Anonymous) 2014-08-17 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
OP, I totally understand. When I was a little baby dyke, I read and wrote mostly m/m because I was desperate for some queer content but f/f (pro or fan) felt too real and too close to home. But as I got more comfortable with myself and met lots more lesbians online and offline, I read more and more f/f, then started writing it, and now it's about 80% of my fic output.
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[personal profile] alwaysbeenasmiler 2014-08-17 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
I love this book except I agree that it was very depressing. Actually anything by Sarah Waters is very depressing because she tends to focus on tragedy more then anything, though "Tipping the Velvet" actually had a psuedo happy ending, thank goodness. I don't get the 'too lesbian' comment though.

Yeah, there is the archetypes but there is archetypes in most anything. Even Mercedes Lackey writes her lesbian relationships as what society perceives them to be (when she occasionally writes out her lesbians).

Hell, I'm sure I do it when I write.

Sarah Waters loves F/F that errs on the side of tragedy though.
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[personal profile] caerbannog 2014-08-17 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Aaah I've had cases like that in fanfiction where I couldn't read the fic because it was too real for me and I just felt very embarrassed and too attached so overall kind of an uncomfortable flushed feeling that I do not like.

I appreciate some distance in my books XD But I also like to support such things so maybe I'll buy it and read each chapter months apart.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-17 07:15 am (UTC)(link)
I understand this. There are so few lesbians in canon that actually end up with each other at the end of the book/movie/tv series that when they really happen, it can be almost unbearably emotional if all you've had to deal with so far is subtext and hints.

The solution is to deliberately read more books with f/f endings and inure yourself to it, I suppose?

(Anonymous) 2014-08-18 05:50 am (UTC)(link)
I love Sarah Waters secrets! She is one of my favourite authors (and I'm not even a lesbian)!