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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-16 03:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #2783 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2783 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-08-16 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I kinda agree though mostly I was just rolling my eyes

Rocket and Groot both seemed little more than a collection of tired old tropes to me tbh. Cute animal acting tough and edgy, gentle giant, character who's practically mute but somehow his friend can decipher entire sentences from him - it's just, I've seen this all a hundred times. The movie tries to sell itself by being this off-the-wall wacky space adventure but none of it is particularly original or witty. Except for the whistle arrow maybe, that one was cool.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-16 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I was skeptical of Rocket going in, but found him to be reasonably well developed with personality that held the character beyond "look, hilarious talking raccoon with guns". Groot did much less for me, though. He didn't seem like a legitimate character at all, more like comic relief and at best, an extension of Rocket's characterization.

For what it's worth, though, I never thought Rocket could "understand" Groot, he was just projecting onto him. Well, I should say, I think Rocket could understand him in terms of feelings and thought process, but Groot wasn't speaking a secret language that Rocket could interpret. Haven't read the comics so maybe I'm wrong, but I never thought Groot was "actually" ever adding to the conversation.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-17 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not an expert on cosmic Marvel but afaik speaking a secret language is actually exactly what he does. It just all happens to sound like "I am Groot".

(Anonymous) 2014-08-17 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
It seems like in the comics, Groot actually is speaking a language. But due to their physical structure, everything his people say sounds like "I am Groot" to non-tree people. But people close to him learn to decipher the meaning, such as Rocket Raccoon.

Seems ambiguous if that's what's going on in the movies, though. Rocket says Groot hasn't grasped language yet, and SPOILER!!!! Groot's last line of "We are Groot" seems to contradict him being physically unable to make other noises. Considering how... sort of stupid he is portrayed, or, uh, child-like if you will, it might not be a stretch to suggest that in the film universe, Groot isn't actually communicating at a complex level.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-17 11:36 am (UTC)(link)
Kind of like "Ook"?

(Anonymous) 2014-08-16 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don't have much interest in seeing this film even though everyone around me seems carried away by hype. I've seen the dancing Groot video and do actually love it, but it just makes me feel like I've already seen the best the film could offer.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-17 07:28 am (UTC)(link)
That's not the best imo, though it was very cute.

All the characters were very entertaining. I loved every second of the movie.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-17 05:44 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know - I thought that how they played with the tropes, by making how people see him as a "cute animal acting tough" be a source of actual trauma for Rocket, was pretty clever.