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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-12-08 05:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #337 ]


⌈ Secret Post #337 ⌋

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Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, [ 1 ] not!secrets, 0 not!fandom, [ 1 2 3 ] too big, [ 1 2 ] comments having nothing to do with secrets.
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[identity profile] sir-hellsing.livejournal.com 2007-12-09 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
Sort of. Creation-Destruction. Alpha-Omega. Yang-Yin. Organic-Inorganic. Natural-Unnatural. Elements of the Universe were divided in the two of them (four classic elements vs ether and time).

Alexiel's power unleashed also nearly undid Creation twice if Adam Kadmon didn't stop time first and Sara didn't stop Setsuna. Sets HAD her power but couldn't control it, a high emotional response unleashed it. He never did learn to control it (regeneration he learned after a HUGE effort). He could master the sheer power (nothing TOO too showing off but to focus in sheer energy) through Nanatsusaya in the end (at least to kill God). This is before Alexiel splitted from him and he became a regular human being (which was a nice touch: he fought so hard to be his own person, Alexiel - now assume Adam Kadmon-like with Rosiel and her astral power- granted him just that). I believe the butterfly in the end is Alexiel and not Belial 'cause Belial wouldn't snark at Lucifer (and Alexiel hasn't yet claimed her old body and was with Lucifer in those last moments, while Mad Hatter was leading the armies of Hell somewhere else). It's a beautiful metaphor of metamorphosis.

Whoops. Long reply.

[identity profile] antiva.livejournal.com 2007-12-09 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
sdflskdjf TL;DR

No, I kid xD See, I got all that, but it's hard to bring it under words so I'm just going to happily copypasta this in my 'references for the future' notepad file. XDb

Oh, tell me this then. Do you know wtf happened to Rosiel, and indirectly Katan? I mean, they zoomed in on Alexiel's body and said 'may we never be apart again' or something like that, but... I don't understand? XD; I was pretty lost on that, I must admit.

[identity profile] sir-hellsing.livejournal.com 2007-12-09 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
About Rosiel and Katan:

- They either died and their souls are watching over.
- They aren't "dead" only their bodies are. See Rosiel and Katan WEREN'T supposed to have a body. Rosiel gave Katan a body (he was a Grigori) and Alexiel/God gave Rosiel one (first had none, then that mass of cables, than Alexiel's face-beauty). So they returned to their original state.

Whatever happens: they are happy together.

[identity profile] antiva.livejournal.com 2007-12-09 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmyes, I know they weren't supposed to have bodies, but then there's the fact of
-Someone (I don't remember who) saying Rosiel and Alexiel couldn't die, only reincarnated. I know Rosiel doesn't have a body, which would imply he's inside Alexiel.
-Yet, when Rosiel died, Alexiel told him he could be with Katan, so where does that leave Katan?

And that's true. I was just confused, embarassingly enough. I'm sorry. *failtard*

[identity profile] sir-hellsing.livejournal.com 2007-12-09 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. I don't think they can die, IMO. Well, Alexiel, she just can't: her body is unkillable. Her soul was torn apart from her living body to reincarnate in a cycle. I doubt Lucifer can die either. Adam Kadmon didn't die, they sealed himself.

... Yet God could die. >_>

I don't think Rosiel died. Alexiel consumed his body and released his soul so he could be with Katan. Angels souls often go around, they can choose to reincarnate or no (unlike human souls that have no choice at all).

[identity profile] antiva.livejournal.com 2007-12-09 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
I doubt Lucifer can die, but it's probably the same as with Rosiel, reincarnation. xD

Haha pure logic. Student surpassing master or something? orz;; Adam Kadamon=motherhen okay. |D;

Oh, like that! Now I get it, thank you. orz that was bothering me beyond belief. Ahh, so their souls go in Hades?

[identity profile] sir-hellsing.livejournal.com 2007-12-09 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
As I understood: Reincarnation is for humans. Mostly. They all go to Hades.

As for angels, it's A LOT of contradictions. Zaphkiel wouldn't be able to "reincarnate" if he kills himself (or maybe they mean reanimated his body?). But no angel soul is in Hades, Kirie's anmesical soul was a BIG exception for Uriel to bother and so are those souls of the wingless angels (in shape of zombies or dragons).

Lucifer didn't reincarnate, he was stolen his memories. He could leave a body and create another in the past. The one he rescued Alexiel with (leaving his original one in Sheol). Etc.

Human souls go to Hades. Angels don't.

[identity profile] antiva.livejournal.com 2007-12-09 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
So they just... wander in the air? |D; I was pretty confused about this part. Especially because the AS world is so big and not everything has been described in detail at all. xD;

[identity profile] antiva.livejournal.com 2007-12-09 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
XDDD Noooo. *dies*

I'm scared they're both Grigori now because of lack of actual body. D: DO NOT WANT.

[identity profile] sir-hellsing.livejournal.com 2007-12-09 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Nah. They were a Cherubim and a Great Angel when they died/lost their bodies.

[identity profile] antiva.livejournal.com 2007-12-09 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
True. But they still committed some pretty horrid stuff. |D;

Oh well. fic fodder, indeed. xD;