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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-23 03:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #2790 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2790 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-08-24 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
To me the worst Mary Sue trait is the one Bella embodies: being treated as the absolute centre of the universe despite being "a boring blah girl".

I mean, as you put it "a half-dragon half-vampire with tri-colored eyes and hair" could possibly be a Mary Sue, but if so, at least you could understand WHY they'd potentially be considered super-important by other characters.

Bella on the other hand was completely dull, yet everyone was utterly and inexplicably obsessed with her. And then of course, once she becomes a vampire she gets to skip the long since established "new born" phase that all other vampires have to go through. That's being a total Sue.

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[personal profile] blitzwing 2014-08-24 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
To me the worst Mary Sue trait is the one Bella embodies: being treated as the absolute centre of the universe despite being "a boring blah girl".

To some extent though, a main character has to be the centre of the novel's universe; they are after all. They're the center of the book's events and the book revolves around them. With any fiction there has to be *some* leeway on that; if every main character was ordinary or de-centered they wouldn't be a main character, or the book would be utterly boring.

Twilight's hook is a dull ordinary meeting prince charmings and becoming the center of attention. It's pure wish fulfillment, and you can't have that without some suspension of disbelief, unless you're going for a dark subversion like The Thief of Always or Shrinkage: A Little Tale That Grows on You. Unless you think that any wish-fulfillment played straight will always make the target character a Mary Sue/Gary Stu (which is perhaps an understandable belief).

And then of course, once she becomes a vampire she gets to skip the long since established "new born" phase that all other vampires have to go through.

I didn't read the last one, so I can't comment on that part.





(Anonymous) 2014-08-24 10:37 am (UTC)(link)
She became the center of attention because the scent of her blood. That's it. Because she smelled strange. And there's the book revolving around a character, and then the character being made out to be THE MOST IMPORTANT PERSON EVAR IN THE WHOLE WIDE UNIVERSE!!!!!!! There's a difference.

Bella Swan is the latter.