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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-24 03:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #2791 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2791 ⌋

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Re: Fandom Confessions

(Anonymous) 2014-08-24 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you mind giving some examples of Harry and Hermione?

Not trying to be confrontational. I'm just interested! :)

Because I never fell in love with books 6 and 7 as much as the others and I'd like to hear your thoughts.
intrigueing: (buffy eww)

Re: Fandom Confessions

[personal profile] intrigueing 2014-08-24 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Basically, Harry in Book 6 has very little continuity with Harry at the end of Book 5. It's not like the change is unfathomable or anything, but his changes all take place offscreen. He tells them to Dumbledore in the Weasleys' toolshed, but we never get to see it, which is a shame. And from then on, he never really fails. This is a problem. Ron got to fail, obviously, on multiple levels, in Book 6 and 7, which made him one of the characters who really did seem to have good character development. Harry never really failed, or gave up, or went "fuck this, I can't, go to hell" at any point after that amazing meltdown at the end of OotP. Again, it's not completely unbelievable, because Harry is nothing if not possessed of great strength of character, but it's wasted potential for a hero of his type, IMO.

Hermione actually doesn't really get smacked until Book 7, where she suddenly turns into a magical swiss army knife with very little personality or agency of her own. In Book 6 she feels technically good and appropriate for her age, but the regression from her being one of the awesomest, most fascinating teenage-girl characters I've ever seen in Book 5 (her detailed, perceptive awareness of the political context and what Umbridge is doing, the complicated mix of impressive maturity and intelligence and scary immaturity and shortsightedness in her attempts to make people act the way she thinks they should act, etc...that moment in the Department of Mysteries when she gets MAD at Luna for saying that there are voices behind the veil is something I read over and over again because I can't believe how well that was done) is kind of disappointing and frustrating. Not that I think a 17 year old girl wouldn't act the way she did in Book 6, just that I don't really want to think Hermione would go from her Book 5 characterization to her Book 6 characterization.

These problems actually bother me a lot less than it might seem from this comment -- they're actually just small nuisances to me. But they do stop me from, as you say, falling as much in love with 6-7 as with 1-5.

Re: Fandom Confessions

(Anonymous) 2014-08-24 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh God yeah -- I agree with you about the lack of continuity. I remember being SO CONFUSED at Harry's seeming lack of reaction over SIrius' death compared to Cedric. He freaked out at the end of Book 5 but he just seemed WAY too level headed in book 6 comparatively.

And Book 5 Hermione WAS great (although I"ll admit SPEW started to tire me out after a while, although I think that was intentional on some level).

It just seemed like Book 6 and 7 had so much wasted potential. What I really loved about Book 6 was the expansion of Tom Riddle's backstory. But almost everything else in that book felt disposable to me. Book 7 just seemed like…well…a mess to be honest.