[ SECRET POST #2791 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2791 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Fandom Confessions

[dreemyweird]

But the problem IS that it's his primary motivation, not that he has no other motivations besides it. That was my view - I guess I miscommunicated it by saying that he "gives no fucks", while in fact I should've said something along the lines of "gives fewer fucks about Harry than he does about (dead) Lily".

I also have issues with the way Snape's obsession with Lily is almost written as a good thing. Considering the facts that the book is not narrated from an objective viewpoint and that one of the -morals- seems to be "yay everyone should marry their childhood sweetheart", I'm pretty uncomfortable with how no one notices that Snape's being skeevy in this regard. (barring Dumbledore, who, however, has no problems with Snape's obsession as such - it's only the fact that it's Snape's only motive for coming to him that disgusts Dumbledore.)

Yeah, I can agree with you about that -
> Just because a guy is more bad than good doesn't devalue the good, it's not like it gets neatly separated into "bad" and "good" and gets plopped on a scale and balanced out or something.

I guess I've always had difficulty seeing the good in bad characters. My standards for judging fictional characters are the same as for judging real people, and it's hard to be objective.

I've thought about this discussion and I think I can say that I no longer consider Snape's arc a spectacular failure on Rowling's part - most of the problems with his characterization are, as you said, due to the "gaps", i.e. omissions or lack of explanation - but I still believe the issues with his characterization are kinda obvious. They're not an insurmountable obstacle to someone who wants to read Snape the way Rowling (textually) seems to want him to be, but they definitely make it impossible for me to say that she's really very good at characterization. She's... all right? Like, I'm ready to agree I can't prove she's shitty.

(re:"unsalvageable", that's my ESLness showing. I meant "irredeemable". Irredeemable "controversial" characters happen to be a big pet peeve of mine, so I might've been biased in this regard, too).

I've never been on this side of the debate, either! I actually like Snape. He's one of my favourite characters and I love to friend-ship him with just about everyone *shrugs shoulders*