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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-25 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #2792 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2792 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-08-26 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
False dilemma
A false dilemma (also called black-and-white thinking, bifurcation, denying a conjunct, the either-or fallacy, false dichotomy, fallacy of exhaustive hypotheses, the fallacy of false choice, the fallacy of the false alternative, or the fallacy of the excluded middle) is a type of informal fallacy that involves a situation in which only limited alternatives are considered, when in fact there is at least one additional option

1) "He's not quite what I expected, but he is kind and sweet and knows how to make a mean chicken cacciatore!"

2) "Well, FUCK, that guy totally wasn't Prince Charming, might as well go down to the SHITFACE BAR and pick up a total fucking LOSER because OBVIOUSLY there's nothing better!"

3) "He's kind and sweet and knows how to make a mean chicken cacciatore, but he doesn't share my interests and he's not intelligent enough for me."

4) I'm sure you can think of more on your own

DA

(Anonymous) 2014-08-26 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Hyperbole, have you fucking heard of it.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-26 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
I fail to see where I said people were limited to only two choices in the world, but I hope you have fun in your hunt for logical fallacies.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-26 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Falsely arguing that the other anon set up a false dilemma. It's like an inception of falseness.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-26 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
Trouble is, the real false dilemma is actually in the secret:

Option 1: Perfect person who is has all of the traits of a fictional character.

Option 2: Abuser.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-26 11:15 am (UTC)(link)
This!

I'm not trying to devalue the possibility that the OP really has had some terrible or abusive relationships, but everyone I've ever met has to go through some bad relationships before they find someone compatible. Honestly the OP either sounds pretty young or pretty sheltered-there's a lot of growing that everyone needs to do before they can find a relationship that is actually healthy for everyone involved. And all humans can be pretty shitty to one another while we're learning.

I dunno, I guess what I'm trying to get at is that relationships don't usually fail because of the actions of one person alone (there are obviously exceptions, especially in cases of abuse and such, but that's not what I'm really talking about). Going into a relationship with these fictional standards for what a perfect significant other should be... that's going to be do more harm than good.

No man you meet is going to be Prince Charming! And that's all for the better! Real people are a lot more interesting, but it takes work to learn how to communicate your feelings, how to fight effectively (that sounds really weird, but learning how to have disagreements is crucial), how to balance the needs and wants and interests of both parties... that's all stuff people need to learn to have happy relationships.

If the OP is swearing of people to live in their hermit hole because they'll be happier, fine (even strict introverts still need social interaction-humans are social creatures) but the secret reads far more like they're just writing off ever finding their perfect guy because they have had some bad relationships and some self esteem issues. And that is sad.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-27 11:35 am (UTC)(link)
As others have pointed out, this is an hilariously ironic comment considering that the secret itself is much more blatant example of this particular false dilemma than exaggerating-for-effect commenter.