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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-26 08:35 pm

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kallanda_lee: (Default)

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-08-27 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
What bothered me about Dawn is that she was very much forced in unnaturally as a character. I mean, it was literally a retcon. She sort of grew on me over time, but I still do not like the way she was introduced, or that she needed to be Buffy's sister.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2014-08-27 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
I actually didn't mind it precisely because she was literally a retcon and they really went for it full on rather than, say, a long-lost sister or something else like that.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-27 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Same here.
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[personal profile] hands4healing 2014-08-27 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
Ditto. But I had only started watching BtVS about halfway through the previous season, and I figured that Dad had custody of Dawn, and that's why we'd never heard about her. I actually would've been okay with that being part of the storyline, and was kind of hoping for it.
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[personal profile] gabzillaz 2014-08-27 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Yep
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2014-08-27 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Me too. I loved the out of the blue appearance of her character and the mystery to figure out. Pretty excellent story-telling for me.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-27 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
Me too. I thought it was pretty clever how they handled it.
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2014-08-27 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
agreed

[personal profile] dbtcanon 2014-08-27 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
That was the point of her, though. She was SUPPOSED to be forced unnaturally into it.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-08-27 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Well, in that storyline, yes - doesn't mean I have to like the storyline.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-27 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
But that was the whole point of the way she was introduced? She was unnatural and retconned by definition because she did not exist before then. And she needed to be Buffy's sister, because they needed someone strong to protect the key. I think it's pretty clever, actually. If she wasn't Buffy's sister, her sudden induction into everyone's lives wouldn't have been so huge. She's not just someone they went to school with, or townsperson. She's Buffy's sister, who has apparently been there ALL along!

I'm having a hard time explaining my issue here- I get that you don't like how it was done. But it's like.. that's the story line? That is Dawn. She was shoehorned in, very awkwardly and abruptly, because.. that is.. what happened. I don't know. To me this reads like 'what bothers me about Buffy is that she is a vampire slayer. She grew on me over time, but I still don't like that she's a vampire slayer, that she needed to be a vampire slayer'
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-08-27 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
No, I do get it - I just don't really like the storyline.

And I guess well with Buffy, that's the character that you chose to watch, and with Dawn it's sort of hit or miss if you'll like her.

SA

(Anonymous) 2014-08-27 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
I guess it's just how you phrased it. Instead of 'I don't like this story where she was unnaturally retconned in' you were more like 'I don't like that she was retconned in, it felt unnatural'

The latter just makes it sound like you've missed the point. Like you're pointing out a flaw in the storytelling, rather than the actual story. But if that's not what you meant, we cool.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-27 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
It wasn't a retcon. There was an entire storyline that took up all of s5 that explained Dawn's existence and it was. not. a retcon.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-08-27 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
You seem to have strong feeling about this.

It was a retcon in the sense that it changed Buffy's family life from single child to someone who had a sister. Yes, there s a storyline leading up to it, and yes it's explained. Doesn't mean it doesn't basically retcon history.

Like, I comprehend how it was written - but ho it was written was a choice, and not one I was particularly a fan of.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-27 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I'm not the anon you were already speaking with. Just a Buffy fan. And yeah, strong feelings, like everything else BtVS related. Can't help it. It was the last show I was truly passionate about.