[ SECRET POST #2794 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2794 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets (random phrases on pictures) ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
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Comments

[fscom]

04. http://i.imgur.com/zVRIlSa.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

I don't get why Jeff Goldblum is relevant to this secret, but Irrelevant Jeff Goldblum is always welcome.

And hot. Lawd.

[silverr]

I think it's perfect ... he's watching Ellie literally dig through shit. :p

[(Anonymous)]

He did a movie called The Tall Guy.

[(Anonymous)]

"That is one big pile of shit."

[kaijinscendre]

Is that really that odd? I mean...that is what a rough draft is for.

[silverr]

Absolutely.

The single best piece of writing advice I ever absorbed was "Don't try to write (i.e., "create") and edit at the same time." Add to that Hemingway's "Everyone's first drafts are crap. Even mine."

Get the story down in whatever way keeps your narrative flow going. Once the lava cools, go back and cut and polish and rearrange.

[(Anonymous)]

I came here to post something along the lines of this, but it would not have been as well-written.

[(Anonymous)]

I thought this was pretty common in writing.
Throwing in short, sometimes vague, quick placeholders so you don't interrupt your flow.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure why this is a secret. Sounds like standard editing procedure.

[anonymous4]

That's how writing's done, OP.

What's made you think you're doing it wrong?

[kallanda_lee]

That sounds perfectly reasonable. But as of late I'm sticking to the following rule: just using th character's name is perfectly acceptable.

[(Anonymous)]

Sounds perfectly reasonable to me, anon. You're just writing a rough draft, then revising, like (decent) writers do. Another thing to take into account is that people can follow dialogue tags pretty well, so using characters' names is fine, but having "he said" and "she said" is also fine. You can even do short exchanges with no tags at all, and just have someone else beta it to make sure it's clear.

[(Anonymous)]

Nothing wrong with that. I don't do it that way, but there's nothing wrong with it!

[intrigueing]

This sounds like a lot more fun than writing "character name" in a repetitive or awkward-sounding fashion in your first draft before editng, like I think most people do :) I may try it next time.

[(Anonymous)]

The problem I have is trying to get the story in my head to appear on paper. Somewhere between my imagination and keyboard I lose all control.

[(Anonymous)]

Congratulations! You're a writer! :)

No, seriously. To echo everyone else, that's the way it works for most people. In fact, National Novel Writing month exists as a way to make people telling that "internal editor" to shut the hell up and go away, because you've got a word count to accomplish.

Took me years to finally get to that point, but I got there. Some may think I'm crazy for writing my roughs in Notepad, but Notepad doesn't poke said internal editor with red and green squiggly lines. :P

[anonymous4]

I turn the red and green squiggly lines off ;-)

[(Anonymous)]

That's a rather excellent process you have there, OP. Continue. :)

[abharding]

There is nothing wrong with writing like that. At time is seems that revising and editing have dirty words in some parts of the internet but revision really is a key part of writing. Get the story out and then go back and edit/revise it.

[(Anonymous)]

I find some authors really do overuse those sorts of descriptive phrases.

[(Anonymous)]

So do you by any chance write Malcolm/Giant Pile of Shit fics?

[atelierlune]

I think it's alright if you allow the epithets while you are trying to get stuff down and then remove them (I'd say find and replace but it's probably not that easy) while editing/after betaing. I know what you mean though. I try to avoid them too.

[(Anonymous)]

I wrote an entire NaNoWriMo novel about the adventures of MAINCHAR1 and MAINCHAR2. No, seriously, that's what I wrote in place of their names the whole time, simply because I couldn't think of good names for them.

If I'd ever wanted to turn it into something I'd show anyone else, I'd have eventually done a search-and-replace. But when I was just trying to crank the word count out, it saved me a lot of time fretting and searching through name-meaning sites.