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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-27 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2794 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2794 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets (random phrases on pictures) ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
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(Anonymous) 2014-08-27 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm, this reads like some sort of stealth reverse psychology plea to get some of that sweet sweet Alan/Davie fanfic you've been craving. Fess up! :)

(Anonymous) 2014-08-27 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I hear ya. The internet recently discovered my favorite book and all it is are endless longing looks between the stuffy upperclass man and the insecure black nerd-guy. Either that or just skipping the longing glances and going straight to the fucking. Despite both of them in canon having het sexual interests (former with the maid, and the latter with a different girl each book). In a set of books with limitless potential for adventures, the nascent fandom never gets out the bedroom. Or occasionally the lounge.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-27 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I want to know what this book is now. :O It sounds interesting!

[personal profile] anonymous4 2014-08-27 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmmm, I was thinking Rivers of London, but Nightingale's not involved with the maid, though the maid obviously loves him, and Peter isn't really insecure, so...

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, don't leave us hanging! What's the book? I'm a sucker for a good stuffy-upperclass-gent-in-in-love-with-the-maid story.

That may sound sarcastic, but I'm 100% serious.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
Insecure black nerd and stuffy upperclassman sounds pretty good, I don't blame them.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 09:00 am (UTC)(link)
Just so somebody says it: Bisexuality is a thing, you know.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
IAWTC.

[personal profile] solticisekf 2014-08-27 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
As a person who slashes old adventure books, heh, you're probably right. Andm really, there are not many women in these books, so not much food for het. You can't make a het heavy fandom out of OCs alone.

[personal profile] anonymous4 2014-08-27 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I was just going to say that a lot of people are afraid to create female OCs. It's a shame.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
People, and by people I mean teenaged girls, ought to be very cautions of creating OC female main characters. They tend to take over.
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[personal profile] ibbity 2014-08-28 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Eehhh, I don't think encouraging people to create OCs just for the sake of shipping is all that great an idea. Granted I'm a bit biased because I pretty much loathe OCs in general. I read fic to read about my favorite characters that already exist in canon doing stuff they don't do or aren't shown doing in canon, not to read about some random OC becoming the star of the show.

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OP

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
I want a gen-centric fandom. I also want flying pigs, and Pluto returned to planet status.
I'm easy to please, I just want the impossible :)

Re: OP

[personal profile] solticisekf 2014-08-28 12:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Poor Pluto!
I noticed big fandoms tend to have a lot of gen, small not so much. =/

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
I do indeed ship Alan and Davie, a few years down the line. In fact I tracked down the sequel, Catriona, because all the adaptations I've seen had A & D never meeting again, and this made me sad. In the sequel, though, they meet up a few days later, and keep meeting; at one point they share a bed (platonically.) Davie names his son after Alan... it made me happy! But not as happy as slashy adventure-romance with sword-fights and chase sequences and constant bickering would make me.

OP

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, Catriona is great. It doesn't have nearly as much of Alan as I'd like, but it's still a very good sequel.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Aww, c'mon, OP. Passages like this don't make you wonder?

"If I die, you'll forgive me?" I begged. "In my heart, I liked you well--even when I was the angriest."

"Do not speak of it!" he cried. "Do not--" And he shut his mouth up on a sob. "Let me get you a little water," he said, "and you'll go easier. It's only a little further. Can you walk at all?"

"No," I said, "not without help. This last hour my legs have been fainting under me, and the blood's running free again. Will you forgive me? I'll die easier with your friendship again."

"Oh, lad, say no more about it!" he said, and again he came near sobbing. "We're neither of us to mend the other--that's the truth! We must just bear and forbear, and if you cannot walk I'll carry you."
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-08-28 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
Insert the obligatory "in no way is this paragraph more suggestive of a romantic relationship than it is of a platonic one" PSA.

Seriously. Just no.

eta: by which I don't mean "ew icky slash", I mean "the difference between a friendship and a romance is NOT a quantitative one, and this quotation has absolutely nothing to do with the nature of the relationship between the protagonists".
Edited 2014-08-28 06:38 (UTC)
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[personal profile] gondremark 2014-08-28 08:15 am (UTC)(link)
I've got the "eww icky slash" reaction going on in this context due to the age gap between the characters. Alan is in his 30s, Davie is 17.
So I guess that's an "eww icky age gap" reaction, not an "eww icky slash" reaction.
Edited 2014-08-28 08:17 (UTC)
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[personal profile] gondremark 2014-08-28 06:53 am (UTC)(link)
I think this is yet another case of Victorian male friendships looking gay to modern readers because modern men aren't allowed to have as many emotions as Victorian men were.
Knowing that this novel was published in the 1880s, I'm just going to say that it reads as very platonic to me (and yes, this is a novel I've ready many times over so I'm not talking out of my arse; it's even less gay in context).

Imagine if both characters were women. In that case, it wouldn't seem all that gay. Victorian men were allowed the same emotional friendships that modern women are allowed today.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-28 09:04 am (UTC)(link)
And this isn't even one of the best examples. Some books do this to a much greater extent. Just take a look into the Hornblower books. There, you really start wondering. (The game "Fic or Forester" doesn't exist without reason haha.)

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[identity profile] galerian-ash.livejournal.com 2014-08-28 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
The first parahraph had me really excited, then I got to the second and it was just... oh :(

I do indeed ship them, and while I'm not sure what you mean by "skip around", I certainly wouldn't judge or ignore you for not wanting to read fics pairing them up. I'm sorry you don't feel the same way.
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[personal profile] azdak 2014-08-28 06:25 am (UTC)(link)
It is so true that a Kidnapped fandom would be heavy on the porn, given that the slash practically writes itself. All that sleeping huddled up together under a single coat, the hurt/comfort, the declarations of passionate love (fraternal, OBVIOUSLY). But Stevenson was ahead of his time when it came to employing fanfic tropes, right down to "Leave moar comments or I'll stop writing" ("How Alan escaped, and what was done about the murder, with a variety of other delectable particulars may be some day set forth. That is a thing, however, that hinges on the public fancy.")

I would love to join in a discussion of all things Kidnapped that doesn't go the usual fandom shipping route, so if you feel like starting one in your lj, OP, please drop me a line!

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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-08-28 06:28 am (UTC)(link)
Are you me, OP? I could've written this secret in my sleep. God, I love this book so much. All the friendship and the adventures and the descriptions of the Highlands. And Alan being ridiculous.

Thank you for submitting this! Here, have a sad fannish high five. If I write anything for this fandom, I promise to post a link here :)
Edited 2014-08-28 06:39 (UTC)