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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-12-10 05:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #339 ]


⌈ Secret Post #339 ⌋

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[identity profile] infringe.livejournal.com 2007-12-10 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Two weeks isn't really something to be proud of.

Four pages? So what? I've seen other roleplaying communities who process six to eight pages way faster than you guys.

[identity profile] ruxi.livejournal.com 2007-12-10 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
No, it isn't. We're sorry we're both, in our majority, students, and thorough.

I don't know how familiar you are with our application system, but what we are generally forced to do is ask for either additional RP samples, or additional resources. We leave people the time to produce those. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.

But... I think the only thing my continuing on this line of thought would accomplish would be to, er, generate d0rama. The (I assume) player in question had frustrations to voice, and much as I personally wish they'd taken it with us (granted, maybe they'd be discouraged to do so, since we're apparently elitist jerks)? It's their God given right.

I do recall you from a good few months ago, and I think you'd have some valuable input to offer as to the game in its overall. If you ever have the time and/or inclination, please don't hesitate to do so.

Thank you.

[identity profile] databomb.livejournal.com 2007-12-10 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Uhhhh can't help but ask, if you're so often forced to ask for additional RP samples, why not make the initial application more comprehensive? I've been in a lot of comms and uhhh no offense, but your app seems a bit lax in the first place - link to a wiki for information? Just a RP sample and journal sample? - and that might cut down time? It would probably lessen the necessity of back-and-forth correspondence?

[identity profile] ruxi.livejournal.com 2007-12-10 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
The regular application at most RPs also asks for character history, as per user analysis. The problem, I think, is that some people can know the canon, but just... be unable to integrate it in their writing, you know?

If we ask for an additional sample, it tends to be because we're unsure as to where they want to take the character. On some occasions, that's more apparent than in others.

[identity profile] databomb.livejournal.com 2007-12-10 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Most RPs ask for characters history and personality at least - options usually include appearance, strengths and weaknesses, powers and weapons, etc, I think? And uhhhhhhhh just my opinion, but if a person supposedly is able to write something from the point of view of the character, shouldn't just wording the history be easy? Also, it makes it awfully difficult for players of minor characters to find suitable links - in those cases, it would probably be much easier to write up a personality/history/whatever, yes?

Also, "where they want to take the character," uhhhh some people join to see what will happen? And it's hard to express all of "where you want to take your character" in a quick sample, I think. No offense, but I don't understand how this is any more effective than the standard system of asking for more information in the first place - not to mention, just my opinion, but it might be easer for an OOC player to trick their way through the short app and get in?

[identity profile] jamiefawkes.livejournal.com 2007-12-11 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Don't mean to poke my nose in here, but I promise I'm quite sweet and lovable. >:

Though I've never come across an RP that asks for those things, they'd make sense. However, I, personally, don't think they'd apply well to Poly's plot/system. Most people arrive with only what's on their person at the time of their plot-gankage, and being thrust into such a new place, they may not act as they usually do for a while until they've adjusted. I play Rabi from D.Gray-Man, and when he appeared, he had fallen down a hole and his weapon was broken. :D; So it's currently rendered useless.

I usually have problems getting across my character's personality/motivations the first time I apply, because I focus on integrating them into the plot and their surroundings, and have been asked for additional RP samples both previous times, but this was quickly resolved this time around, when I started asking friends that are excellent writers to have a look over my applications and give me an honest opinion about how I convey the character and balance it with their integration-- I'm doing it this application session, and I've already tweaked a few things for the better. :3 ♥ That was a mouthful, oh my;;

Regarding the resource links, I'm pretty sure I recall a recent-ish post about that, stating that if you really are pressed in finding suitable links, you can ask someone you know familiar with the fandom/character to write up their own evaluation of the character's general personality to be used. ♥

I don't think the "where you want to take your character" is a very long-term commitment-- I don't actually have any plans for both of my boys past the first couple weeks! A horrible thing to admit, really. But I don't think it's particularly important, considering the plot structure of the RP itself. Things change every few days and it's a real rollercoaster. :3 ♥ But we love it that way~ I believe it's more about showing an understanding of your character's motivations. What will drive their choices when this and this happen? That sort of thing~

[identity profile] databomb.livejournal.com 2007-12-11 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
1. Concerning plot, personality, etc., I'm not saying that has to be used strictly for the RP itself, but it does help people get a grasp of how well the player knows the character, yes? A player who can put the character's situation and personality and whatnot in their own words can probably play them out a lot more realistically, I think.

2. Yes, it's true that you can ask another person to write something for you, but if it's an obscure fandom, it may be hard to find someone to do that. Also, why have to go through this hassle in the first place? Since the mods are slow with correspondence, this eats up a lot time - let's say, they take two weeks and ask you for a write-up, and then they take another week to look it over and approve you. That's three weeks. It's a lot of time, and I'm sorry, but I know a lot of people won't last so long before their interest dies out.

3. And uhhh the thing is, someetimes a character doesn't have that much depth in the first place that can be shown through a third-person sample? Like alkwejnflkafe not all characters are DEEP and THOUGHTFUL and stuff, or have a much more subtle personality that would be more well-expressed through a third-person sample and stuff? I personally just don't see how just a quick RP sample can express all those things the mods are demanding: personality, depth, future plans, etc. etc.

Not to mention, it must be harder for mods to gain all this information from just one sample? If they're saying it's hard work approving applications, then why not make the process easier for themselves by making it easier to judge at once? (HAHAHAHA, it's kind of pathetic how many of my sentences end with question marks alwkenfaf)

Uh yes. I think that's it?

:')