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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-12-10 05:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #339 ]


⌈ Secret Post #339 ⌋

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[identity profile] penguinfaery.livejournal.com 2007-12-11 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
I disliked her from day one and didn't even know what Yaoi was until about halfway through that fandom (As it was my first real fandom after Sailor Moon which is generally pretty skimpy on the yaoi. Or at least a small enough amount a squeaky clean Junior high kid could not stumble upon it)

[identity profile] windtear.livejournal.com 2007-12-11 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but you were kind of meant to hate Relena at first. She was drawn to be a spoilt, semi-delusional little rich girl, who gets her life totally destroyed when it impacts with reality. Then you were meant to watch her pull her head out of her arse and start to climb back up, and recognise that yeah, this took effort and we should respect her for that effort. You'll notice that in the end she didn't really get anything she wanted. She didn't have a home, she didn't have a boyfriend, much less Hiiro, she didn't have safety and she didn't even have the luxury of being able to stop and have a birthday party. What she had was a mission. Quite frankly, if she wasn't burned out by twenty-five, I'd be shocked.

[identity profile] penguinfaery.livejournal.com 2007-12-11 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but I never liked her. Her personality just rubbed me wrong at ever step, and there was nothing that made me want to cheer for her.

That may not make her a bad character, there are people you don't like, and I wouldn't call her a mary sue or anything, but I REALLY disliked her, to the point that it's hard for me to rewatch the series anymore.

And although now there's the layer of yaoi (or at one point there was, I don't think I even ship 1X2 anymore.) that was never anything but a secondary reason to dislike her. (personally, I rarely hate girls cause they "get in the way" cause I just never let em do in my stuff :D)

[identity profile] lanjelin.livejournal.com 2007-12-11 12:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, of course I'm not saying that no one disliked (or dislikes) her for legitimate reasons, so to speak, but the over the top blind hate of pretty much the entire fandom back then was mostly because no one relly knew her character.

I've never understood hating her because she gets in the way of yaoi though, because, er, she really doesn't? I mean, it's not as if she's paired up with anyone, nor do they express romantic feelings for her.

[identity profile] penguinfaery.livejournal.com 2007-12-11 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never really understood that period. The "Getting in the way" thing...since most this stuff is in fanfics/fanart, there's very few girls who, with a little tweaking couldn't be logically written out without destroying the character...even when i don't like a character, I hate to see them ripped apart. If you control the world, you control who gets in the way...but eh.

Gundam Wing fandom was just pretty batshit all around though. I'm surprised with that as the first fandom I was "in" that I stayed around.

[identity profile] lanjelin.livejournal.com 2007-12-11 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
even when i don't like a character, I hate to see them ripped apart.

Generally, when i dislike a character, it's because how they act in canon. So writing them IC is enough of an insult from me. XD

I agree on the getting in the way, though. There's no reason to think like that most of the time, and if the only way you can make a paring work is to make a third party look bad, you're just a bad writer.

Gundam Wing fandom was just pretty batshit all around though.

Since I had my training in the GW fandom, even the Harry Potter fandom coulnd't shock me. Sure, HP maybe more sophisticated in its perversions, but after reading Duo raped by a panther and giving birth to human/panther hybrid cubs, Relena raped by Heero's Gundam, prostitution, weird deaths, the pilots being anthropomorphic personifications, poly in all combinations, and the writer Sephiroth in general, nothing really comes as a surprise anymore.

[identity profile] penguinfaery.livejournal.com 2007-12-11 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
XD That is a very good point.

Nah, I'm really sad right now cause I'm in a fandom with the two guys one girl thing and I LOVE the girl...just don't think she fits with the guy. And hate seeing her ripped up so, cause it's so easy to logically split them up without making anyone look like an asshole.

I have to say. i was interdouced through Gundam Wing, but Harry Potter still...*shudder* Then again GW was like "New shiny! :D" and I think I was more forgiving...or something.

[identity profile] lanjelin.livejournal.com 2007-12-12 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, when I started out in GW I read everything. I didn't know enough to know the good from the bad, really.

I'm really sad right now cause I'm in a fandom with the two guys one girl thing and I LOVE the girl...just don't think she fits with the guy.

Well, you can like characters without shipping them. ;) I almost never hate, or even dislike, characters, female or otherwise. There are just different levels of interest.

[identity profile] penguinfaery.livejournal.com 2007-12-12 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
See, I'm the opposite I've always been really picky, I think that saved me from a lot. Nothing can save you from Harry Potter Fandom tho XD

I will admit, there are some I can't stand (hate is a strong word for fictional character, but yeah)