[ SECRET POST #2799 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2799 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 058 secrets from Secret Submission Post #400.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, I've had the literal opposite experience. I've entirely quit the fandom because of how incredibly horrible and nasty the Ward-is-a-poor-misunderstood-woobie camp is to anyone who even SUGGESTS that he is currently acting entirely like a villain, whether or not there's a future redemption arc on the cards for him or not.

(TBH, the vile behaviour of his fans has made me do a 180 into hoping for a NOT, because I can't at all imagine them doing anything but incredibly vicious we-told-you-so at people who didn't find him a woobie while he's acting like a bad guy.)

[(Anonymous)]

Same. Well, minus the leaving the fandom part. But yeah, on Tumblr especially, while there's definitely been rude and intolerant behavior on both sides, by far the worst of what I've seen has been coming from the pro-Ward camp, including bullying, attacking, and gaslighting other fans, responding to polite criticism of the character with ad hominem attacks on the person making the criticism, etc. I've gone from having no real feelings on Ward one way or another, to actively hoping he doesn't get a redemption arc because it's going to make the fandom absolutely intolerable.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT
Yeah, the jackasses on both sides suck. It could just be that we've run in different fandom circles, and so have had completely different experiences. It was not fun finding out that apparently, because I could see where the plot arc could be going and kind of liked it, I was betraying everything good and decent. Which is incredibly hypocritical if you think about it, considering that redemption is one of the Marvel Verse's biggest themes.

::sigh:: stopping here before I leave an essay of lit analysis in a FS post.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm the anon who left the comment right above yours, and I just wanted to say that I'm sorry your experiences were so awful, anon. *anonhugs!* It's true that I've had bad experiences with a different side of the fandom, but that doesn't make YOUR bad experiences okay, and it's really too bad that so much of the fandom seems to have been taken over by jerks on both sides.

[(Anonymous)]

Sadly, given how they are going to keep him on the show, the producers are going with the Ward-the-Woobie characterization. He's going to be "gradually forgiven" and "work to make the others understand his story".

[(Anonymous)]

NOOOOOOOO

As an AOS viewer what I found most frustrating about Ward, at least Ward-as-redeemable-baddie as opposed to Ward-as-baddie-we-love-to-hate, is that he doesn't actually seem to want to do the right thing or help people or really do any of the stuff that goes along with a redemption arc. He's an active card-carrying member of Team Bad Guy right up to the end of the season, and rebuffs every opportunity he's given to turn away from Hydra and help out the good guys. Ward definitely MIGHT show remorse and start trying to be a better person later on, but the process hasn't actually shown any signs of starting yet. For the others to extend forgiveness and understanding to him now is basically a guaranteed route right back to where they were in the middle of the season: let him in, trust him, care about him, get betrayed all over again. (Though if that's actually where Whedon et al are going, I could be on board for it if it's decently done. A face-heel-face-heel turn? my brain hurts ...)