case: ([ Etna; Hee. ])
Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-12-11 01:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #340 ]


⌈ Secret Post #340 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Posting for Shahni! And early because I've got pseuicide class.

Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 150 secrets from Secret Submission Post #049.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 3 4 ] broken links, [ 1 2] not!secrets, 0 not!fandom.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Wednesday, December 12th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
harukami: (he bled dirty red wine and I drank gin)

Re: 27: A theory on all the recent yaoi posts

[personal profile] harukami 2007-12-13 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
I totally appreciate this response, by the way.

I'm Canadian, and I was never so grateful as when my sig other had a gall stone attack in the middle of the night and I got to ride with her in the ambulance with nobody questioning my right to be there when I said I was the spouse. I was also very aware that it was something that was rare enough to be grateful for.

I never said annoying! Linguistics are a very interesting thing, and to be fair, I started it (with the normative vs "the norm" thing). *g* I only mentioned that last point because the opposite of normative (being a term with connotations different from "normal") isn't "not normal", it's "abnormal". *g* I think you have a point, but the trouble with the reclamation of language is that it's not just about what you say, it's about how it's received. And while the gay community can say that, it would be a long time, I think, before it was received in that way instead of "oh they admit they're abnormal/abominations/rar!" ways. Even "Queer" (with the same connotative meaning split of unusual vs abnormal) is still in the process of being reclaimed -- it's come a long way in that it's used academically and so on, but it's still being used as an insult. :/

(XD Don't worry about it! I've almost replied with my demon cannibal rp journal before -- it's easy to do.)

Re: 27: A theory on all the recent yaoi posts

[identity profile] farasha.livejournal.com 2007-12-13 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
Very good point. I had and still have a problem with the word "faggot" - I have a dislike toward it bordering on loathing, and no other word in the English language has the ability to make me as uncomfortable. When I think about it, it seems quite ridiculous - it is only a word, after all. But even when gay people use it, I can't stand it. You would never hear it coming out of my mouth and I get uncomfortable when it is said.

I have also caught myself saying, and have been ashamed of saying, "That's gay" with connotations of stupidity. Just because my best friend uses it all the time, and he happens to be gay, doesn't mean it's alright.

You make a very good point about the elasticity of language, and how difficult it is to reclaim a word after it has been turned toward something negative - and inversely, how incredibly easy it is to make that same word negative in the first place.