[ SECRET POST #2804 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2804 ⌋

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Comments

Re: OP

[ketita]

A lot of people these days have issues with contextualization. They can't see the space between "progressive in its day" and "progressive today".
fwiw I agree with you heartily about the current movies, and that's one of my big gripes with them. I think that part of the point of Star Trek - regardless of how well it succeeded in each incarnation or episode - was asking cultural, moral, and philosophical questions. Often the characters were forced to deal with conflicts that I thought were challenging not just in a 'shoot 'em up' kind of way.
The new movies don't do that at all.

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[silverr]

Agreed 1000% with both you and OP.

I was thinking of this point just the other day, because I got into a discussion about how the messages (explicit and implicit) in "Taste of Armageddon" might have been viewed back in the day in relation to the Vietnam War.

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[insanenoodlyguy]

This +100

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[(Anonymous)]

This. For exambple, Uhura might have had more of a role in the reboot movies, but when you add in context her role is actually farrr less progressive. Which is why I'm glad that Abram's wanted to give Uhura a bigger role in the movies, I am still pissed as hell at how he did it.

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[ex_mek82]

Ah'yup. This reminds me of an op-ed somewhere -I can't remember where exactly-, wherein the writer remarked that each Trek series sometimes "echoed" the times of the real world, like certain themes, et al. I'll admit I'm not a huge Trek fan (I like TNG, but that's about it), but that was one of the things I thought was unique about it. And if Trek is supposed to echo the times we live in, well... I wonder what that says about the reboot movies.

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[ellensmithee]

I hope not much. Abrams was supposedly never a fan of Star Trek, so I'm guessing he just doesn't get it on a deeper level.