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Re: T'hy'la
(Anonymous) 2014-09-06 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)I've just always thought that Roddenberry used the term because Kirk and Spock were ALL of these things to each other:
-they were friends
-they were brothers (brothers in arms/family -- the last chapter of Star Trek V, funnily enough, is called "brothers in arms")
-they were lovers
But that's just me!
It doesn't have to be friend OR brother OR lover. To me, it's friend AND brother AND lover.
Re: T'hy'la
Though, in a sense, I personally don't assume that Roddenberry was necessarily hinting that, and I think there's yet another difference between saying you interpret it that way, and that you interpret authorial intention that way.
But ship what you like :) heck, I'm not even arguing against the ship or that interpretation of it, just giving my 2c on worldbuilding.
Re: T'hy'la
(Anonymous) 2014-09-10 12:09 pm (UTC)(link)I've just always thought that Roddenberry used the term because Kirk and Spock were ALL of these things to each other
yeah but if that was so, then why he specifically added the footnote where he clears up the possible confusion and specifies that Spock meant it with the brother meaning, though? You can surely read into that footnote and Kirk's joke any subtext you want, if you want, but it doesn't change the fact that in the very same moment Gene (assuming he even wrote the novel entirely) gave us the information that the word could be used for lovers as well he DID specify that for Kirk and Spock it meant brother because Spock saw him as a brother but vulcans don't have a word for friends that are like brothers but aren't biological brothers. He never said Spock used it with the lovers meaning too, he only said he saw Kirk as a brother and then Kirk makes fun of a supposed lovers rumor denying it.