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[(Anonymous)]

I really doubt there are all that many actual queer people who look to the kind of pairings that Tumblr accuses of "queerbaiting" for representation. While the situation is obviously far from ideal, in this day and age there is a choice of shows and movies with actual queer characters that they can seek out.

(Uh, I don't like supporting my arguments with anecdata but I feel like I should clarify that I'm speaking from experience here. When I was 16 and going through that whole realization that I was maybe a little in love with my girl friend, I was thirsty for any kind of same-sex-bffs-falling-in-love storyline. So I went and mainlined an entire storyline of that exact kind from a British soap opera on YouTube.)

[(Anonymous)]

I can believe it largely because I do see quite a few LGBT people who ship popular slash pairings. I know of a few queer male fic writers for some of my favorite pairings as well. The person who I talk about my favorite slash ship most often is a lesbian too.

I'm not saying there aren't better options out there, but I still think creators can be rather exploitative. I also feel this way because, whatever their faults, a good many fans ARE rather young and inexperienced so I cut them more slack than the creators who are usually at least in their 30s.

[(Anonymous)]

Wow this just in there are no queer people in fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

da

ayrt isn't saying there are no queer people in fandom, they'er saying queer people in fandom don't look to characters in headcanon slash/femslash fics for representation because they're not actually queer

it's dumb as hell to be like "mary represents lesbians" when she isnt a lesbian wtf. though i will femslash mary to hell and back if i want to and nobody can stop me. am a queer person btw

[(Anonymous)]

*raises hand*

Queer woman here (specifically, bi leaning asexual, though I'm still not sure how much of my asexuality is innate and how much is due to serotonin levels), and you've completely described me in that first paragraph. I don't watch much TV in general, and what I do watch is pretty much exclusively SFF (but not horror; I'm a huge scaredy-cat) and/or mysteries and/or procedurals. So while I know that there's queer TV out there, it tends not to crop up in shows that I'm interested in.

Granted, I share your frustration with pairing-specific claims of queerbaiting in certain fandoms, e.g. Teen Wolf. I might ship Sterek in my own time, but on the show, I just want Stiles to come out as bi canonically, regardless of whether he's dating Derek or Scott or Danny or Lydia.

But in other fandoms, I'm as hardline as any other shipper; for instance Rizzoli and Isles, where only Rizzoli/Isles would make me feel validated after all that ship-teasing.

I haven't the first clue how universal my experience is, but also anecdotally, I'm definitely a "queer [person] who look[s] to the kind of pairings that Tumblr accuses of 'queerbaiting' for representation."

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da

i don't think "i ship a ship, and i refuse to accept any other ship as valid" means you're looking to them for representation. that just means you ship something hard, which anybody can do with any pairing without representation being involved.