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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-09-07 04:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #2805 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
DA (that is also from Israel- woo there's more than one of us???)

I always hate it when people outside of Israel ask that question- because it's so obvious they know NOTHING about what is going on here. Do you think all Israelis are monoliths who think the same? Do you not realize we have our own internal issues, our left and right, our minorities, our discourse based on our experience in our country that we actually have to live in? What kind of a question is that- "To what end"? What do you expect, that at some point Israelis will lift their hands up and say "oh, yeah, this totally crosses the line, so I now want Israel to be destroyed"? This isn't going to happen.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry, that wasn't my intent. I don't think that Israeli politics is a monolith and I'm aware that there are many different points of view and priorities in Israeli politics. I meant to ask a specific question to a specific person about their statement about supporting Israel.

Let me see if I can explain what I meant a little better... To me, it's one thing to say that you support a country. I support my country, I'm sure most people support their countries, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. The question is what that support means, and how it influences your actions and attitudes. How that support issues into political choices. So to me, saying that you support your country for X, Y, and Z reasons is all very well and good, but it's in some ways an empty statement. It's not just a question of whether or not you support Israel, it's a question of what that support of Israel means when we're talking in the specific context of the Palestinian question, and what actions that support will justify. I don't think that question is out of line.

In the same way, I support my country, but that doesn't mean that I support everything that they do. I think it's legitimate to ask someone who says that they support Israel what supporting Israel means to them personally, and that's what I meant to ask. I hope that is somewhat clearer.

I also have to say that, from the outside looking in, it seems like far less of an existential threat than it apparently does to you. It's really hard for me to imagine a course of events where Israel is destroyed. But that's a point of view I suppose.