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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-09-07 04:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #2805 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2805 ⌋

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Re: IA

[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2014-09-07 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
As soon as a minor OC does more than provide background color, and starts taking a prominent role then you have left fanfic behind and are just trying to bolt your Original Fic onto a fandom to increase its profile.

No. That's fucking stupid to assume that someone is just posting it to force people to read their stuff by "disguising" it as fanfic.

That's a bullshit conspiracy theory by people who think so much of their entitled selves that they're convinced those Mean OC creators are out to trick them

I like putting original stuff in my work to add something unique to it. To have a little something of mine. I'm not doing it 'just to trick people into accidentally reading my original novel. I'm doing it because I literally enjoy it more. You can choose not to read it

But don't you make stupid accusations about what I'm actually doing.

I'm just writing fanfic.

I write because it's something I enjoy. I don't do it to trick your stupid entitled ass.

Get over yourself. I'm sick of you dumbasses who think I have a fucking ulterior motive
Edited 2014-09-07 22:12 (UTC)

Re: IA

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Mature. Temper tantrums do not win arguments you know.

Re: IA

[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2014-09-07 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you serious?

You're sitting here telling me "what you're REALLY doing is this". How do you not expect me to be annoyed. I've run into your type before. It just pisses me off to have someone try to tell me what I'm really doing.

It pisses me off to have someone tell me what my real intentions are.

I'm tired of people who think I'm doing anything but writing a freaking story. I'm not doing it to force people to read anything because I warn and tag my fics with OCs. I tell people exactly what my story is going to contain so they can decide for themselves whether they want to read it or not.

I'm just a little sick of people who think that any kind of story but original flavor is illegit. I write fanfic to explore different settings.

But I'm still writing fanfic. the fact that I include original stuff doesn't make it anything else. You CHOOSE to read my fic as "secretly trying to make us read her novel" or "making the canon characters into whatever"

When I wrote one of my fics I actually rewatched the whole entire series and analyzed the characters and came up with a bunch of little headcanons about some canon characters and their history to help me write about them. I wanted to make sure I would write everything well.

Don't tell me what my motivations ~REALLY~ are and then dismiss it as a tantrum when I get pissed.

Re: IA

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, I'm not trying to be mean, I swear. But when ayrt said "you", they probably meant people in general, not you personally. Stop trying to defend yourself / your fics every time people mention OCs. It's not about you, get over yourself. You don't need to be so defensive, okay?

Re: IA

[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2014-09-07 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Well to be fair...AYRT didn't give any indication that it was a general statement. They're directly saying "when you write this you're actually saying/doing this and need to do this other thing"

They should make it more clear that they're just saying they don't like it and not "you need to write fanfic THIS way because it's aset rule"

Because that's what they sound like. Or when they say "when people write this it means this"

Maybe they should not phrase their words in a way that sounds like they're deciding what other people mean/intend.

Re: IA

(Anonymous) 2014-09-08 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
You don't get the point, do you?

Nayrt btw

Re: IA

[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2014-09-08 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
They are still making broad claims and then being all "why are you mad at me and defensive"

Maybe they're just wording it poorly but they sound very forceful.

"As soon as a minor OC does more than provide background color, and starts taking a prominent role then you have left fanfic behind and are just trying to bolt your Original Fic onto a fandom to increase its profile. There is nothing wrong with Original Fic, but if you want to write your own stuff stop using a fandom to boost your profile and hits."

There is nothing here that says "this is what I think" or "I feel" "or generally I tend to think most people..."

They are literally saying "this is what you're doing and you need to stop" Like it's a fucking FACT.

and I'm saying "no I don't do this. Please don't make assumptions"
Edited 2014-09-08 01:49 (UTC)

Re: IA

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Your age is really showing here.

Re: IA

[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2014-09-07 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I am not saying that anyone HAS to read my fics.

I'm just saying "don't fucking speak for me and what my motivations and intentions are" or "what I'm really trying to say"

You can only speak for YOU. That's my whole issue here. Don't speak for me.

Re: IA

(Anonymous) 2014-09-07 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, I'll speak for just me. I am finding that you are overly defensive and resistant to criticism. I am finding you knee jerk reaction to any criticism of your preferred oeuvre to be very immature. I do not wish to read your you works because I believe you are just writing original fiction and are being wilfully to blind to that. That is what I find. Happy now?

Re: IA

[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2014-09-08 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
I don't mind actual crit that is "here's how to do this"

All you've been saying this whole time is "when you do this it means you're really doing this and you need to stop writing this"

Why are you working so hard to keep fanfiction derivative? Why is originality so bad.

I never wanted anyone to read my works to begin with I was just pissed off at your tone of telling other people "this is bad, stop writing it"

Fanfiction is not any less fanfiction because it has something not canon in it. If it's still set in the story's world or using their characters, It's fanfiction. Original content doesn't make it less.

You know when it's original fiction?

When there are no borrowed characters or borrowed setting.

You seem resistant to people criticizing your stupid stereotype of people who have the audacity to write what you're not interested in.

Edited 2014-09-08 00:17 (UTC)