[ SECRET POST #2805 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2805 ⌋

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Comments

[insanenoodlyguy]

Having a legitimate grievance doesn't make you a good guy and it never has.

[(Anonymous)]

They used the only means available to them to pursue it.

[(Anonymous)]

You mean they used non-violent protest coupled with a will to work within the political structure so as not to prolong the process with violence which would only serve to make the British dig their heels in to save face?

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, I see, we're living in a fantasy land where the British would have listened and that tactic would have changed anything in a million years, and also where there weren't other groups in Northern Ireland committed to violence who would have attacked them, and were attacking them, consistently.

[(Anonymous)]

Worked for Gandhi.

[elephantinegrace]

Sorry to break this to you, but Gandhi's nonviolent protests came with a giant side of bloody, bloody violence.

[sabotabby]

Not to defend the IRA (who went from being a legitimate resistance group at one point in history to a gang of organized criminals who used politics as a smokescreen) but don't go dragging Gandhi into it, please. Not until you've read a bunch about Indian history and the other factors, violent and otherwise, that made independence possible.

[insanenoodlyguy]

Even if you weren't full of shit, that still doesn't make somebody "the good guys"

[(Anonymous)]

I think we just fundamentally disagree on what makes someone the good guys.

[(Anonymous)]

Not acting like murderous assholes bombing memorial ceremonies or attacking innocent people would seem to be a good start towards that definition. Looks like the IRA failed at the first step.

[insanenoodlyguy]

Yeah see, anybody who does these sorts of things loses any right to call themselves the good guys.

Doesn't matter if it's a just cause. Doesn't matter if Machiavelli approves and it works out great overall in the end. You do shit like this, you are at best a bad person working towards a good future. Which still makes you a bad person (and the whole "works out in the end" is pretty damn fucking subjective)

[(Anonymous)]

Doing terrible things, even in the service of a good end, isn't it.