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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-09-07 04:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #2805 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-09-08 11:52 am (UTC)(link)
Like there was any chance of "winning over" the pre-existing populace, are you that fucking naive?

Also, my history textbook may have been biased or incorrect, but weren't the Arabs the first ones to attack, with the PLO and all that?

(Anonymous) 2014-09-08 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Your history book is leaving out the campaign on bombings and terrorism that was conducted by Jewish terrorists in order to get a toehold in the Palestinian Mandate and set up the country. Israel is a country that was founded only because of a successful terrorist invasion plan.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-08 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Was that before or after the 1920 Arab riots and the 1921 Jaffa riots?

(Anonymous) 2014-09-08 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you seriously going to play the "Who Started It" game?

(Anonymous) 2014-09-08 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Right, that might conflict with your "Israel is evil" narrative.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-08 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe if Israel stopped killing thousands of children...

(Anonymous) 2014-09-08 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe if Hamas stopped throwing missiles at them...

(Anonymous) 2014-09-08 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm Israeli, and this whole "but they started!!" ping-pong is stupid and leads to nowhere.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-08 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
That's how most countries in the world have been founded (well, perhaps not terrorist invasion, but certainly invasion).

And that's the thing I don't get about these arguments. The Palestinians weren't originally there, either. People of various ethnicities have been fighting over that barren scrap of land for thousands of years, but because this happens to be the conflict that is freshest in our collective memories, we latch onto it and say things like "but Israel stole from Palestine." We care about land ownership, but it's almost as if we put a statute of limitations on it, as defined by how close we personally are in time. It was yours five hundred years ago, you say? Ah, well, but it was this guy's eighty years ago, and my grandmother was alive then, so that seems more legit.