[ SECRET POST #2807 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2807 ⌋

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Comments

[sarillia]

Personally, I don't like excusing people of the past. Understanding the context, sure. But part of that context is that there were people who thought differently even then and I don't think they should be ignored when they've fought so hard to make life more like it is now.

I don't go around saying that anyone who likes things that express bigoted opinions are terrible people though. I'm not sure why having a problem with something and liking it are treated as completely incompatible.

[(Anonymous)]

IA with this. Although I think you do have to bear in mind what differing opinions really were around in a given time period, but yeah. Somebody said that you judge people from the past by the best lights of their time and I think that's a good formula.

There's also a difference, for me, between thought and action in this regard - I think I'm a lot more inclined to forgive someone for thinking or saying something bigoted in the past than for actually doing something cruel or inhumane or immoral, because it's a lot easier for the former to be excused on grounds of ignorance or unfamiliarity or whatever.

[sarillia]

Hmm, I'm not actually sure what I think of thoughts versus actions. I come from a religious background where conscious thoughts are considered actions. So like in my homophobic upbringing, I was responsible for keeping my mind clean of homosexual thoughts, and it was a pretty significant action for me when I embraced those thoughts instead of ignoring them. But at the same time, it's not like I had control over all those thoughts, just what I did with them when they popped into my head.

I tend to be sympathetic to people who struggle with giving up old beliefs though. These things are pretty ingrained and it can be hard to train yourself to think differently, especially if you don't see a lot of the effects of the sort of thinking that you're trying to change because you're fairly isolated from the people who are affected the way a lot of people in history have been. I guess it's harder to claim that you don't see those effects when you're acting on those thoughts, so I'd have to agree with you overall.

Sorry, I'm rambling.