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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-09-11 07:19 pm

[ SECRET POST #2809 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2809 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[personal profile] fscom 2014-09-12 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
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(Anonymous) 2014-09-12 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
From what I've seen of the fandom discussion, people were more bothered that they liked the actress (I'm not familiar with her) and wanted her as a companion and therefor they really took issue with the line.

I didn't have a problem with it, the Doctor can be kind of random about his standards for companions but this did fit in with how a lot of New Who has been in regards to the military.

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(Anonymous) 2014-09-12 11:29 am (UTC)(link)
And don't forget the usual suspects who had no dog in the fight when it came to the military, but still felt it was something they could use to bash Moffat. Yeah, I know who you are (not the anon I'm replying too)! You who post anti-military polemics on your own journal, then turned around and claimed you was the uber-patriot who supported the troops no matter what in your post bitching about Moffat and Doctor Who. That is what I means about the anti-Moff psychotics, they don't have reasons, just excuses.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-12 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
You're reading a hell of a lot more into the line there than was ever indicated in the episode.

I mean, it's not a line I have a major problem with, but cmon now.
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[personal profile] cassandraoftroy 2014-09-12 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
I think the critical difference here is that the Brig was a companion before the Doctor experienced the Time War. As awesome as the Brig was, I'm not sure a post-Time-War Doctor would have taken him on if they'd met for the first time then, because of the way the War affected the Doctor.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-12 11:26 am (UTC)(link)
Even pre the Time War, if the Dcotor had had the choice, remember while the Brig made a couple of appearances as the visiting authority figure of the week in the Troughton era, he didn't become a regular and a friend until Three's exile to Earth. Two very important things made the Doctor become friends with the Brig:
1. The Brig was a familiar face that was prepared to put up with three's petulant bullshit and not toss him out on his ass (close run thing a couple of times) so The Doctor kinda glommed on.
2. UNIT was pretty much the only game in town that had the kind of science, and access to alien tech, that the Doctor needed to try and fix the TARDIS.



Even then there was a lot of fighting and disparaging comments (just watch Inferno, which is pretty much the nadir of the Doctor and the Brig's relationship) before a friendship of sorts developed. It took a lot of time, and it happened during the time that the Doctor had a lot of time on his hands and no way to do a proper storm off in the TARDIS (he tried, again Inferno). Then The Master turned up so the Doctor and UNIT could have a proper common enemy to band together against. When the Brig was put on a bus in the BakerT era the Doctor dropped UNIT like a hot brick, and it wasn't until the Brig's retirement we saw Mister Lethbridge-Stewart again.

One of the books suggested the only reason that the Doctor hung around with UNIT during the Pertwee era was so he'd have someone to shout at and rebel against, since the Timelords themselves were unreachable.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-12 11:17 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but The Doctor always enjoyed fighting with the Brigadier too. He was the Brig's very own live-in troll for a lot of that time, on a personal mission to wind up and loosen up the members of UNIT as much as possible. They were his surrogate punching bag for the unreachable High Council of Gallifrey. He and the Brig eventually settled into a friendship, but even then the Doctor was never entirely happy with the more military part of things.