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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-09-14 03:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2812 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2812 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-09-15 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
"everyone seems to be trying to guilt me for my thoughts"

dear radfem anon that still has not learned to use line breaks

a lot of us don't really give a damn what your thoughts are. it's plain ol narcissism to assume we all do

gl hf with that attitude

(Anonymous) 2014-09-15 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
If people didn't give a fuck about other people's thoughts they wouldn't throw a bitchfit when a woman romanticizes rape, just sayin'.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-15 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
You can romanticize rape all you want, and talk about how and why you do. And other people can talk about how there are social problems with romanticizing rape, and talk about how and why they think that.

The problem with you and people like you is that what you really want is asspats for liking a thing. You don't want anyone else to say that they don't like the thing that you like, or to criticize the thing that you like. You bitch and whine about people telling you what you can and cannot read while, at the same time, telling people what they can and cannot criticize.

I like shit that's problematic, but I don't throw a tantrum every time someone points out that it's problematic because I've accepted it and I'm old enough to realize that not everyone is going to be okay with the things that I like and do. If you want people to get off of their high horses, then you ought to get the fuck off your own.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-15 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
Except I'm not the one crying wolf about social problems all the fucking time and I'm not the one that gets unwanted criticism on shit already heard pushed in her face 24/7. If people want me to respect their opinions then it's time their start respecting mine too already.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-15 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
"It's always and only women that get scrutinized. It's always and only women that are demanded they care about random strangers just because *gasp!* they exist. Fucking hell this doesn't happen to men."

"I'm not the one crying wolf about social problems all the fucking time"

oh

"If people want me to respect their opinions then it's time their start respecting mine too already."

"everyone's who not part of my family or friends can go die in a fire."

i think i see your problem here anon

(Anonymous) 2014-09-15 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
The problem is that some people want the same social freedom as your average man?

(Anonymous) 2014-09-15 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
Blaming smut made by and for women for the actions of random people completely unaffiliated to it is crying wolf about social problems and all sorts of fucked up about freedom of thought and personal responsibility, because you're one saying one is not responsible the book devil made them do it. And thoughtcrime too according to the legislation where I live. Nice shaming attempt anyway.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-15 12:20 pm (UTC)(link)
What are people crying wolf about, exactly? Abusive relationships happen, they look almost exactly like what's portrayed in the books, and a lot of women are told that they can end abuse by being submissive enough (there's a popular marriage manual in the fundamentalist Christian community that gives that exact message). This...actually is a real problem. The books didn't create it, but they do reflect it.

It's true that fiction is not reality, and people have kinks that they know they should never actually experience. With 50 Shades, I think what people worry about is the reinforcement of a harmful message that already exists.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-15 01:39 pm (UTC)(link)
The problem is that these books and all books of this kind are not affiliated with fundamentalist communities of any sort and are not telling you a message. That's not their purpose. They're telling you a story to let you dream and to entertain. If you want to see a personal moral message in it, that is your choice, but please do not project your own personal meanings and delusions on me.

This is a common plague to all entertainment media, by the way. Stop looking purposely for education exclusively in your entertainment and stop blaming entertainment when it does its purpose instead acting like your parent/textbook/guide/schoolteacher for you. YOU are the problem if you're doing this.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-16 03:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Feels good living where there are no fundamentalist christians. Why do americans think they're the only ones in the world and everyone is as retarded as them? Stop getting in the way of my smut already.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-16 03:11 pm (UTC)(link)
God forbid a woman has her own idea of what's acceptable for her and her creations that doesn't fit with yours, eh?