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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-09-15 06:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2813 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2813 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Vocaloid]


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[Homestuck]


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[Luke Evans, Dracula Untold]


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[Guardians of the Galaxy]


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[John Green]


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[Ace Attorney: The Adventures of Ryunosuke Naruhodou]


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[Legend of Korra]


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[Paul Hollywood of The Great British Bake-Off]















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Re: Looking for media

(Anonymous) 2014-09-15 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
What's the difference between the gay female gaze and male gaze? (Not saying lesbians are essentially men, but it seems they would like looking at the same things. )

Re: Looking for media

(Anonymous) 2014-09-15 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I think OP might meant that they don't want to watch things where lesbians are fetishized for a male audience (male gaze).
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Re: Looking for media

[personal profile] mekkio 2014-09-15 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder about that too. Because my lesbian friends and my male straight friends gaze at the same thing; breasts, butt and legs. I wonder if there is a real difference.

Re: Looking for media

(Anonymous) 2014-09-15 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Gay female gaze is less objectifying, less destructive and more, idk, personal? Focusing more on the beauty and power of the female form and the woman inside the body than simple lust and owner ship over a female body expressed in more male-focused works.

Re: Looking for media

(Anonymous) 2014-09-16 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
You're confusing "male gaze" with "destructive male gaze".

The latter is only a subset of the former, though it's an unfortunately pervasive one.

The male gaze simply has less identification and more mystery, because men obviously don't know a woman's body as well or as intimately as a lesbian woman would know a woman's body.

Re: Looking for media

(Anonymous) 2014-09-15 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess one thing I have in common with guys is that I like women to be attracted to me, and the women in movies are usually straight. If they are into women it's only when they're drunk and/or a hot guy is watching. There's also a very fine line between appreciating a hot woman and feeling objectified as a woman. There's always the knowledge that the hot woman isn't there for me, she's there for the dudes, and the underlying message is "You too should make yourself attractive to men."

Also, I like body hair.

Re: Looking for media

(Anonymous) 2014-09-15 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Nothing.

People just throw it out with other buzzwords because it sounds good. When tested to see if they can tell the difference they fail everytime.

Re: Looking for media

(Anonymous) 2014-09-16 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
It's pretty noticable in gay porn for guy-attracted guys verus slash for women, though.

But I can't tell the difference for lesbian porn.
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Re: Looking for media

[personal profile] ariakas 2014-09-16 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously? I think the difference between lesbian porn by lesbians and lesbian porn by straight guys is even more jarringly obvious.
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Re: Looking for media

[personal profile] inkdust 2014-09-16 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Not as in actual perspective but in terms of media, I think there's a difference. Unfortunately, almost everything defaults to the male gaze, so I don't have much of a comparison to make. But I think of the male gaze as more frequently breaking bodies down into their supposedly objectively attractive parts rather than appreciating an entire person. In real life, women do that too, but it's different in media, when it's just presented that way. A movie decides what you get to look at.

Re: Looking for media

(Anonymous) 2014-09-16 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
there is definitely a difference between "made for a female audience" and "made for a male audience."