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[ SECRET POST #2815 ]

⌈ Secret Post #2815 ⌋

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(collapsing for spoilers - sorry, folks)

I sort of liked the "Wait, it was actually Clara all along!" reveal (though I know a lot of people didn't), but after my initial "OMG!!!!" reaction, I realized I was still confused - who wrote "LISTEN" on the board? And who/what was the blanket-monster with Rupert? Is this going to be explained sometime, or am I doomed to never know?

The show kind of presents possible answers to all those questions - the Doctor wrote LISTEN on the board and then didn't remember it somehow, and the blanket-monster could have been a kid. I think (at least as of right now) it's supposed to be intentionally ambiguous. I don't think the ambiguity really works - it's hard for me to take the ambiguity seriously when BOTH sides seem ridiculous, flimsy, and implausible - but I seem to like the episode as a whole much less than most people do.

Then again, this being Moffat, it's very possible it'll all be explained as part of the plot arc.

Clara suggests it is perfectly within character for the Doctor to have written it and then forgot (and to be honest, she isn't wrong). Under the blanket is suggested to be another kid in the orphanage playing tricks.

However, a lot of people are suggesting it is another time loop (like the Doctor and Jacket from Flesh and Stone where it'll be explained later in the season.

Or there really is a soul devouring monster that hides behind you all the time. All. The. Time.

Or there really is a soul devouring monster that hides behind you all the time. All. The. Time.

The Silence v1.2? And, speaking as someone who quit watching a few minutes into the "Evil snowmans!!!ELEVENTY-SO-SAD!!!!ONE!!!" "special", tell me now: On a scale of 0 to Moffat, how Moffat is the plot, exactly?

It's hard to say. We've barely seen any of the ongoing plot so far - just enough to know there is one. Could go either way.

just enough to know there is one

Well, that's an improvement, at least. Not exactly par for the course.

I think this is Möbius-level Moffat, and until we get to the finale it is also Schrödinger Moffat. You can't really score this one on the scale, because he is either taking the piss out of himself (and the fanbase), or he is playing it very straight (and also still taking the piss out of the vocal wailer part of the fanbase).

Which part of the vocal wailers? Those of us who detest his "plot" (or stunning lack thereof), or the shrill SJWs constantly moaning about this, that, or the other "problematic" thing?

he is either taking the piss out of himself (and the fanbase), or he is playing it very straight

Think I would prefer the former option to the latter, IMO. Based on the other spoilers ITT, I will be giving this episode a pass.

It's a Moffat episode, but one of his good ones, i.e. one that has good internal build-up and consistency. The kind of one-shot he's good at. If you're asking for the season theme, though, that might yet come crashing down.

I honestly wish it was a monster. This was the first Doctor Who episode that genuinely scared me. And as much as I loved that scene with Clara and the young Doctor, the lack of monster ruined the scary beginning for me. This is the first episode of this season that I've had mixed feelings about.

I sort of loved it wasn't a monster for that very reason. I love the show acknowledges that our monsters but also u strengths) are often within up. To me, it's my fav episode s far.

Oh I get that. And I kind of agree. It is just this episode was literally the first thing I've watched that scared me in a really long time, so I felt kind of let down when there was no monster. So my feelings are a bit mixed.

Nah, I get that. I do hope we still get a good scary episode, but I'm glad we got this one, too.

I think he just decided to screw with himself. Or maybe Clara knows how to mimic his handwriting and did it herself.

I myself didn't mind the reveal, but was rather annoyed at the big long conversation she had to the young future Doctor. It's like, hello where did this speech come from?

It came from the older Doctor earlier in the episode, can we say wibbly-wobbly?

You're not alone, anon. I loved it too. And as much as I understand the hate about how Clara is now the one who gets all the attention and does EVERYTHING that has to do with the Doctor - it's true, it can be annoying, but I don't mind it. I like her and I like that they've given her such importance.

I didn't mind the board thing, but I was very intrigued by the blanket monster. I really wanted to know who was it, and part of me wanted it to be revealed that it was just everyone's imaginary scary monster that they think they follow them everywhere they go, but then it took Rupert's bed sheet and that's not imaginary much, heh.

I hope they do explain it, though it's likely they won't.

I didn't find it "ambiguous" so much as "full of holes." There was just too much going on for it to work as a case of "folie a deux."

Oh look, one of the people they were talking about upthread has just shown up.

You mean a time-traveler who makes the ooky plot holes work? Guilty as charged.

(Hint, I'm not a Moff-hater.)

lol, you mentalist, it's a perfectly legitimate criticism

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