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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-09-20 03:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #2818 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2818 ⌋

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OP

(Anonymous) 2014-09-20 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I just feel like the reason this happened is BECAUSE of the romance, though. Natasha's characterization was AMAZING, in my opinion, in the Winter Soldier (especially how they tied some major fears of hers into SHIELD's destruction). And they did a good job with Peggy in the first film in terms of showing how she knows what it's like to have people think less of you because of things you can't help.

It just seems like these types of scenes are so often put in because writers think it makes the romance "cute" or is a shorthand to show "Oooooo she likes him" -- the way a five year old would telegraph such a fact.

And it ALWAYS seems to be done to the detriment of female characters. When Steve thought Peggy and Howard were "fonduing" he didn't think less of her or treat her differently -- he only brought it up AFTER Peggy shot at him. And it didn't hurt his character. Whereas I feel this scene definitely damaged Peggy's character (and not in an interesting way that gives her flaws either -- because shooting your crush for kissing another woman is just flat-out fucked up). And I feel like it was done because the writers were trying to make sure that the idiots in the audience knew that she liked him.

As though it wasn't obvious...

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-09-20 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I could write sonnets to Natasha's TWS characterization, half a year later and I'm still not over how much I loved her in that movie.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-09-20 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought she was boring as fuck, personally. And that makes me sad because I want to like her, she's just... dull.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-09-20 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Different strokes, etc etc.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-09-21 10:28 am (UTC)(link)
Co fucking signed.

I love Black Widow. I just don't like Scarjo as Black Widow.