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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-09-22 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #2820 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2820 ⌋

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kaijinscendre: (Default)

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2014-09-22 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I can see where he -might- see that from a POV so far removed from slavery. But when choosing between who is worst, I am going to go with the person who rapes and tortures people.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-22 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I can see where he -might- see that from a POV so far removed from slavery.

It's not that far removed at all - http://cwmemory.com/2014/01/28/william-prince-ford-stonewall-jackson-black-mans-friend/

"We need to stop trying to understand the history of slavery in this country by imagining who we wouldn’t mind being enslaved to."

QFT
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2014-09-22 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
But this isn't trying to understand the history of slavery. It is more, "Of these two, which is a worse person." Philosophically Ford could be considered worse. Realistically (to me) Fassbender's character was worse.
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2014-09-22 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Understanding the history doesn't mean becoming magical objective robots without opinions about that history.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-22 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
(this is the anon you originally replied to :])
I was actually about to reply that the perspective hinges upon looking at their actions abstractly or realistically and that we can only really get the context of McQueen's statement with the hindsight afforded to us, but you obviously get that! But I would still say both perspectives are valid, even as removed as one of them might be from the realities of the situation. I myself don't necessarily agree with McQueen, but he does raise a point that is worth dissecting.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2014-09-22 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I was trying to find the context of the comment in question but can't seem to. :C

(Anonymous) 2014-09-22 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
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If you mean where McQueen actually said that Ford was the worst, I've been looking too! I know I've seen or heard it somewhere, but I can't remember if it was first hand or off tvtropes or the like (the most reliable of sources, I know).

(Anonymous) 2014-09-23 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
http://www.vogue.com/872847/movie-film-12-things-you-should-know-about-12-years-a-slave/

Ejiofor thought it at least if McQueen didn't.