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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-09-23 06:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #2821 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2821 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Twin Peaks]


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03.
[Star Trek]


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04.
[Fall Out Boy]


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05.
[Monster]


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[Left 4 Dead 2/Grand Theft Auto 5]


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07.
[Cabin Pressure]


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08.
[Quantum Leap]


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09.
[Amy Winehouse]

















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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
I refuse to believe that there are people as cruel as you, so I'm choosing to believe this is a troll.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
If it's cruel to not romanticize musicians who died young due to drugs/alcohol, then I think you'll find the world is full of cruel people.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously, this is just unnecessary hate.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Your bar for cruelty outside the realm of possibility is set pretty low. Do you refuse to believe that child abuse is real, too? Are all the puppies and kitties in the animal shelter just there to fuck with your worldview? Is there really a good How I Met Your Mother finale hiding in the next room with a cupcake and a balloon with your name on it?

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
Is there really a good How I Met Your Mother finale hiding in the next room with a cupcake and a balloon with your name on it?

Actually...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoHUs8J7x94

No dead mom and no stupid Ted/Robin bullshit

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
Hahah! Win!

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
I like this one a lot better. Sure, it's kind of trite and not as interesting as the broadcasted ending (not that it was interesting in a good way, mind you) but it feels like the happy ending that the show actually deserved after so long. That, and it didn't completely ruin seasons of character development in record time like the broadcasted one did.
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[personal profile] quirkytizzy 2014-09-24 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
I'm an ex junkie. Got almost 14 years clean. There are people in this world that cruel. Discussions over Amy's music never bothers me - music is subjective. It's the hate that comes down onto addicts, most of whom already hate themselves, that bother me.

I understand exasperation towards addicts. Dislike. Even distrust. I was not a pleasant nor trustworthy person to be around when I was shoving needles into my veins. I couldn't blame a single person who cut themselves out of my life and chose never to speak to me again.

But....the hate? That's cruel. And people are that cruel. I'm sorry.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm with you on this. People act like drug addiction is some kind of "moral event horizon" that only truly odious people get into but people make mistakes. People do things they shouldn't. People depend on emotional crutches when things get difficult. Addicts just choose a dangerous crutch to lean on.
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[personal profile] quirkytizzy 2014-09-24 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
Very much this. Addiction is not a choosey bitch, she'll take anyone who has the brain chemistry and the bad luck to get hooked. There's no denying that there is a complex and VERY poorly thought out decision process when it comes to doing things that will get you addicted. The addict will eventually need to come to terms with that.

But it's not a moral failing. People don't get addicted because they are bad people. They get addicted through bad luck, poor decisions, and screwy brain chemistry.
Edited 2014-09-24 02:44 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 07:08 am (UTC)(link)
Poor decisions ARE a moral failing. That's kind of the point.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 07:21 am (UTC)(link)
The decisions they make are not, in themselves, morally faulty. They are poor in the sense of imprudent, but not poor in the sense of immoral. Those decisions lead to alcoholism, but only in part and as a result of a confluence of other factors and events; they're not choosing to be addicted.

The idea that addiction is a moral failing absolutely does not stand up to any rigorous thought.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 12:12 pm (UTC)(link)
That kind of reasoning is a variant of Just World fallacy. You've decided that certain decisions (and it really is only certain decisions; you'll allow for mistakes, I'm sure, as long as those mistakes meet some arbitrary criteria that makes you feel okay about yourself and the people close to you) result from poor morality so that you can comfort yourself with the belief that bad things only happen to bad people.

But it's bullshit. And it's especially bullshit when it comes to drug addiction, because there's usually a lot more behind someone trying a drug than just making poor decisions (for example, heroin addiction often starts as an addiction to an opioid that the user was legitimately prescribed by her or his doctor for a legitimate medical reason).
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-09-24 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
Just wanted to say congratulations for making it this far. That's pretty amazing. I'm sorry about all the hate, but it looks like you're at the point where you can use your experience to comfort people rather than only needing to be comforted which is pretty cool.
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[personal profile] quirkytizzy 2014-09-24 02:06 am (UTC)(link)

Thank you. I appreciate those words A LOT. Sincerely, thank you. It helps me continue to make a better sense of the things I put myself and other through. Thank you.

(Anonymous) 2014-09-24 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
First, good on you for 14 years. I've got family members currently struggling with drug addiction and while my feelings on the subject are complicated, I don't hate them at all.

But I think it's important to clarify that suggesting someone doesn't warrant a state of themselves doesn't really qualify as "hate" in my book, nor do I think it's particularly cruel.
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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2014-09-25 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Sadly people do get very angry if others admire someone who went against their own moral code. The amount of 'why are you celebrating this drug addict' when Lou Reed died was an example of that.