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But if the woman has all the power in the choice then she should have all the consequences. In the end, it is her body and her choice to have a child. Not the man's. Therefore, she should have deal with the full consequences of her choice.

That is a serious oversimplification that ignores the possibility of power dynamics, dubious consent and outright rape, etc.

Side question: Do guys who commit rape and get women pregnant have to pay child support? Because they should.

Does a woman always have all the power in that choice, though?

Social pressure can force a woman to "take" a choice she doesn't want and it won't be fair for her to be the only one to have to deal with the consequences while a man can walk away (and honestly, even with the laws that force a man to at least pay child support, there are legal loopholes and less legal ways for a man to avoid paying, even in cases he was involved with the decision to keep the child).

Short version: You're oversimplifying a very complex issue.

The woman doesn't have all the power here. As I mention in one of the below threads, the man already made his choice. By having sex with the woman (likely unprotected sex), he knew the woman could get pregnant. That is a risk he is taking. He can stop the pregnancy from ever happening by not having sex, or lower his risk by having protected sex only. So he makes his choice, spins the roulette wheel, and then it's in the woman's hands (well, body).

What about the situations where men purposely lie because 'lol dats da game bb, men have to lie because bitches have too much power when it comes to sex my peepee needs touching ;-;" and makes promises he never intended to keep? Does he get to skip off with the whole 'hit it and quit it' bullshit? Oh I love you! I want to spend my life with you! Oh you'repregnant? Bye

What if the woman pressures him and says she's going to leave him if they don't have kids

i mean, if we're making up specific abstract hypotheticals here

Then he should leave her if he doesn't want kids.

As a side note, anyone - male or female - using kids as bargaining chips in a relationship is repugnant.

YUP.

Abstract? You do realize there's a huge 'pick up artist' movement, right? That's all about lying and tricking women into sex? And an equally large group of men who failed at that and think women shouldn't be allowed to 'control' the sex 'market'? There are guys who think Elliot Rogers 'women kept in concentration camps and breeding tubes' was a great idea.

Yes, there are women like that. But there are far, far more men who just want sex without condoms because "it doesn't feel the same :'(" who will lie and deceive to get what they want.

I think you are vastly overestimating the size and success rate of the PUA "movement".

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