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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-09-24 06:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #2822 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2822 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Psycho-Pass]


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[LoadingReadyRun]


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[Ella Masar and Erin McLeod (NWSL)]


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[Hadaka Shitsuji]


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[Richard Armitage]


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philstar22: (Janeway)

Re: Rant Thread:

[personal profile] philstar22 2014-09-25 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
That's not the same thing. A woman's choice of what to do with her own body has nothing to do with what happens what a child is born. Once a child is born, both parents are equally responsible. While it is still inside her body, she gets to choose whether or not her body hosts it. Bodily autonomy and money are not remotely the same thing.

That's why I think pro-life arguments are crap. Even if they were right that a fetus is a human being (I go back and forth on that), no one should be forced to host it any more than people are forced to donate organs or give blood. Your body is your own. Period.

Re: Rant Thread:

(Anonymous) 2014-09-25 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
So your body is your own, but your life isn't? It's wrong to force women to bear a pregnancy to term, but it's right to force men to spend their lives raising a child that they've decided that they don't want?
philstar22: (Default)

Re: Rant Thread:

[personal profile] philstar22 2014-09-25 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
Forced to raise, no. Forced to pay, absolutely. And pay reasonably, which, frankly, is not what is the reality considering how low child support payments often are.

Re: Rant Thread:

(Anonymous) 2014-09-25 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, if a man helps create a human being, I do think he should have to change a few diapers and help with some term papers, but that's evidently out of the question.
mekkio: (Default)

Re: Rant Thread:

[personal profile] mekkio 2014-09-25 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
See, that's where you get into a slippery slope. Now, if you agree that the man created a human being, a life, then you are opening a hole in which someone can argue than there should be no choice for the woman on whether or not she should be able to have an abortion. What is growing in her is a "human being" (your own words). That child has rights at conception and that the father should have responsibility in those rights.

Re: Rant Thread:

(Anonymous) 2014-09-25 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Well, no, I just wasn't talking about the pregnancy part. We've already established fairly well in this thread that when the baby is still in utero, the woman (within legal limits) has the right to abort. But once an actual human being comes out, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect the father of the child to actually be a father.

Re: Rant Thread:

(Anonymous) 2014-09-25 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
So, you're against letting anyone make a decision that will affect 9 months of a woman's life, but fine with letting somebody make a decision that will affect the lifetime of a man. Because that's what the words you have put here mean.