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⌈ Secret Post #2824 ⌋

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Yeah, Zelena's fixation on Rumple was a bad idea. She would have been a much stronger character if she was just trying to destroy her younger sister because their mother chose Regina over her. The Rumple thing turned her into nothing more than a pathetic Glenn Close-wannabe.

The Pan thing didn't bother me so much because I do think that the show should have focused on Neal and Rumple rebuilding their relationship since that's the whole reason the curse exists to begin with. Having Pan be Rumple's father was unnecessary- baby Rumple was cute as a button though.

For me where the Neverland arc fell apart was the godawful Jones/ Emma/ Neal love triangle and Snow basically washing her hands of trying to have a relationship with her daughter.

Everything about S3 was bad. Characterization was tossed out the window for everyone and Emma kept getting swept aside to give Regina the stage, showcase Rumple's manpain, or put her in the middle in a really stupid love triangle.

I'm still salty over Neal's death, because like you said, Neal is the entire reason the curse exists in the first place, and there was no point to killing him off. It was complete wasted potential, and the fact that at this point Hook has more development with Henry than Neal is straight up awful. I have a lot of ill feelings for Hook and the more he kept trying to needle his way into Emma's life and acted like he knew her on any real level was obnoxious.

Also, are you referring to Snow wanting to have another child? My memory is fuzzy when it comes to the Neverland arc.

I’m pissed about Neal’s death too. The character had a ton of potential and it was all wasted. Even if they wanted to pair off Emma and Jones (and for the life of me, I don’t understand why), Neal still had plenty of story potential with Rumple and with Henry. He would have been a nice bridge between these fairytale characters and the real world since he understands both realms. Even after 2A, Emma doesn’t really seem to get the fairytale thing.

Snow really pissed me off in 3A. At the beginning of season 2 she told Emma (paraphrased), “You are my priority. You are my daughter. I am going to fix our relationship no matter what.” By 3A which is what- six months later in story time?- she essentially gives up and tells Charming that she wants a do-over baby because she doesn’t have the relationship with Emma that she wants.

Allowance 1- I KNOW they had to write in Ginny’s pregnancy.

Allowance 2- I don’t blame Snow for wanting another kid, and I don’t think she’s selfish for wanting to have those firsts that she missed with Emma. However, I think she was selfish as all hell to want a child RIGHT THEN while her relationship with Emma was still very shaky, and Emma was in the middle of the custody battle from hell with Regina and dealing with her ex-boyfriend coming back into her life and being the Dark One’s son. Add to that Snow seeming to have no second thoughts about staying in Neverland with Charming and leaving Emma on her own again… Fuck you, Snow. You’re a lousy mother.

To add insult to injury, season 3B Snow is Regina’s biggest cheerleader, saying that Regina was right to hate and terrorize her. Victim-blaming is gross. When a victim blames herself and the show frames her as being right to do so? That’s creepy as hell.

I'm a little more understanding about the Snow thing. I feel a lot of it is the writing, and lbr Snow and Charming have an almost unhealthy dependency on one another. I don't think at this point they could function without the other half. They'd go ballistic.

Snow's definitely not mother of the year, either, but for Snow Emma should be an infant and Snow knows literally nothing about being a parent, which is part of the problem. Emma is an adult woman who doesn't know how to feel about her recently-discovered mother (who is probably younger than Emma since they're from a medieval fairytale land). Their relationship is never going to be on level with what it should be, and Snow shouldn't have to put aside wanting to have another kid simply because Emma is having hardship. The entire situation is bad, and the show doesn't really explore Snow's internal struggles as much as the others. It's probably mega emotionally damaging to have your first child, and then essentially wake up the next day to discover your baby is now 28 and independent and isn't sure they want to get to know you.

The fact Snow wanted to have a baby was also framed as an "awful dark terrible secret you don't want anyone to know" from what I remember of the episode where they rescued Neal, so Snow probably isn't very guilt-free about the entire thing.

A lot of the writing for this show is inconsistent as all hell and a lot of character choices don't make any dang sense tho so y'know. Everyone on the show is kind of an unintentional asshole. Charming was annoying as hell during 3A.

Maybe I take the Snow and Emma thing too personally. I have a very strong relationship with my mother, but we’ve gone through a couple of seriously rough patches. My thought is that you keep trying no matter what. Snow should be continually trying to have a relationship with Emma, and it seems like she can’t be bothered anymore. Her priority list goes 1- Charming 2- Regina 3- Baby Neal 4- Emma, and that’s skewed.

If the two women sat down and talked and decided, “This is too weird and hard. Let’s just be friends instead of mother and daughter” I’d be fine with it because it’s a solution. Instead they exist in this weird limbo that the show seems to think is fine.

But yeah, I agree that most of these issues are caused by the terrible writing. At this point, I like exactly two main characters and a few of the side characters and fast-forward through everything else. I guess I get angry because the show could be so much better than it is, and I resent the lost potential.

Yeah, like I said earlier, despite Emma being the Savior and the main character, she gets shoved to the side a LOT so everyone else can do what they want. It doesn't matter what it is, Emma is the last on the list of priorities for everything on the show. I hated that Emma was FORCED to lose her magic, just to make an excuse to kiss Hook, because everyone suddenly lost common sense and decided he was the perfect companion to bring along in a magic battle, all so Emma would stop being a. pissed at Hook and b. so Regina could save the day instead. Ew.

I've decided to quit the show after how much of a disaster S3 was and I'm pretty upset by it. There are very few things that would convince me to go back, and I'm definitely not touching it until the Frozen shit is done.

When Emma lost her magic, wasn't she supposed to giving CPR to Hook...? Only it was the weakest-ass CPR ever and really chest compressions would have been the better way to go?

Just to add to the BS pile.

Basically. But at that point the writers had written Emma and Hook into a corner, so the only way to get Emma to go anywhere near Hook's mouth was to make up a bullshit reason to need to save his life, because it was the only IC option.

They just scraped all other sense in the process.

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