[ SECRET POST #2824 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2824 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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10. [SPOILERS for Ghost Trick]



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11. [SPOILERS for Kick Ass 2]



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12. [SPOILERS for Haven]



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13. [SPOILERS for Spec Ops: The Line]



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14. [WARNING for rape]



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18. [WARNING for self-harm]

[Kill la Kill]










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Comments

[replicantangel]

Um, no? That's not at all what I said. What I said is that we only know what the character is thinking through her outward expressions. We cannot go to this fictional character and ask for more information, because she is fictional. My point there was that whether or not it is rape is not conveyed in the script itself, and therefore, it is probably flawed writing. That was literally all I was saying in that second part, aside from agreeing with you.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, it kinda was what you were saying. Side-eyeing you like hell right now.

Re: DA

[replicantangel]

Well, that's not what I meant. You can side-eye all you want, but I meant literally the words I wrote. Crappy writing means we don't know what Tara felt. That's it.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

Oh it isn't what you meant, you didn't intend to convey that. Well that makes it all better then. Intent, fucking magic isn't it.

Sorry honeybelle, but you might not have meant to say that; that is still what you did say. Accept it, and reflect.

Re: DA

[replicantangel]

I said something. You interpreted it incorrectly. I said that interpretation was not what was intended. I even apologized for implying that interpretation to another anon below. You're telling me to "accept it and reflect" when I've already seen how this was interpreted and clarified and apologized. You even concede that I might not have meant it. And yet you still patronize me and judge me.

I am so glad that you have never been misunderstood online or anywhere else in life. I hope to be so perfect as you that I never make an error in my written thoughts. I'm glad you're perfect in how you convey yourself. I hope that continues for you. I hope you never have someone imply that you're the scum of the earth because you realize that you're wrong or being misinterpreted or both.

[(Anonymous)]

You may think you're saying that, but it's the exact same logic a lot of people actually use. I have literally been told that because I didn't report my rape, it isn't actually rape and now I'm making it up. because I didn't express it.

It doesn't matter that she didn't say it. You're needlessly splitting hairs and arguing away what is the literal definition of rape instead of looking at the facts which is that she didn't make informed consent.

And why? Does it make you uncomfortable to think of Willow as a rapist? Does it make you uncomfortable to think of this as rape because it's not the typical roofie or back alley rape? Either way, it literally makes me feel like I need a bath right now.

[replicantangel]

I am sorry what happened to you. But I meant literally the words I said - flawed writing means we don't know what Tara felt. I initially assumed people would realize that what the character feels happened to them is rape or not is different from it being rape or not. You know what they say about assumptions. Apologies. But that is all I am saying.

Look, I've been swayed. I was on the fence at the beginning, but I agree there's a lack of informed consent. I am aware that is rape. I don't believe a roofie or the common media portrayal of a "back alley rape" is necessary for it to be rape.

[(Anonymous)]

The script gives us all the information we need to diagnose it as rape. There is clear erasure of consent, that is rape. Whether or not they would have made up or not left to continue the fight is irrelevant. Whether or not the character makes the allegation is irrelevant.

[replicantangel]

Yes, that was my point. Crappy writing means we don't know what Tara felt. I was agreeing with the anon, and simply adding that it was flawed writing.

[luxshine]

Actually Tara compares what Willow did to what Glory did to her. She calls it a violation, if I remember correctly, of her mind.

Flawed writing or not, we know that Tara felt violated. Thus, we know that for HER? Willow used magic to rape her.

[replicantangel]

I didn't remember that. I just remembered her being angry about the magic use and the singing lines about "playing with my memory". Of course that'd be a much clearer image of how she felt.

Thanks.

[kallanda_lee]

Ehm, not exactly though. Tara experiences the mind wipe itself as a violation (and understandably so) - but not the sex (as far as we, as viewers, know). Yet, the latter is what is being argued.

[(Anonymous)]

Go get raped, and kill yourself rape apologist.

[replicantangel]

Oh good grief. You could at least TRY to be original. Does this "ironic" and "edgy" comment rattle/scare/upset anyone anymore?

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