[ SECRET POST #2841 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2841 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I know there is still a problem of flat female characters just being an "award" for the male protagonist.

That said, I feel people are too harsh on female characters. They're held to a much higher standard than male characters. A male characters can be the flattest flat character who ever flatted and still get fans. A female character must have not just depth, but the right kind of depth, or she's useless.

Also, just because you can't relate to a character does not mean you have to bash them.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, this.

[(Anonymous)]

That said, I feel people are too harsh on female characters. They're held to a much higher standard than male characters. A male characters can be the flattest flat character who ever flatted and still get fans. A female character must have not just depth, but the right kind of depth, or she's useless.

I was just about to say this. I was a Merlin fan and got sick to death of people saying "Guinevere is just a love interest!" whilst simultaneously making up tons of meta and fics and GIFs for Percival who we knew absolutely NOTHING about.

And it wasn't just a male/female thing either. Any visiting princess was bound to be adored, even when every single one of them was introduced SOLELY to be a potential love interest for Arthur.

And that's just one fandom out of many. So I always take the "I dislike her because she's a love interest" excuse with a pinch of salt. A lot of the time it feels like an excuse, not a reason.

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, I never really warmed to Guinevere. I don't mind Angel. I just didn't think she really had the right chemistry with Bradley. (I don't ship Arthur with princesses or Merlin/his Round Table, either.)

[(Anonymous)]

Then you'd be the very small exception to the norm.

[(Anonymous)]

"Also, just because you can't relate to a character does not mean you have to bash them."

Ah, this! This is what was bugging me about this Secret. Like, holy shit OP... do you treat real people like this too? If you can't immediately and directly relate to them and their experiences you just HATE them? Hate, really? I know you're only talking about characters and maybe you're able to compartmentalize really well and none of this reflects on your attitude towards other things but good lord this speaks to a huge lack of empathy. It's okay to not relate to some one and therefore not LOVE them or anything, but to HATE them because you don't relate to them? Seems like an overreaction.

[ibbity]

Maybe they more hate them as a reaction to being told over and over that the purpose of a female character is to be the otherwise-undeveloped Love Interest And That's All Folks. I know I feel a stab of resentment when I unexpectedly encounter that kind of crappily written character in an otherwise-decent piece of media. it's like the creators of the piece are being all "This is what all women are or are supposed to be, so accept your limitations." With real people, it's so very much NOT the same thing at all, because those people DO have personality beyond making out with the pretty white guy male lead.

[(Anonymous)]

Pretty much sums up misygynistic Who under Sexist Moffat.

[(Anonymous)]

There's a difference between a flat character and a character that exists solely as a prop to another character, though.

I'm tolerant of the first one. The second one, not so much.