[ SECRET POST #2841 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2841 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Changing a Character for an Adaption

[(Anonymous)]

The whole thing where Elrond would try to get in the way of Arwen/Aragorn and that he thought Men were weak seemed so OOC for the character that I just couldn't accept it. For me, that made him a dick in the movie (when you compare him to how he is in the book).

Re: Changing a Character for an Adaption

[philstar22]

Maybe. In the book, or at least the appendices, it was Arwen who wouldn't marry him until he became king. So maybe they did it to keep one of Aragorn's reasons for striving for the kindship (especially when they made him reluctant) without having Arwen be the one. Because it makes sense in the book, but it would probably seem rather harsh of her to modern viewers.

Re: Changing a Character for an Adaption

[(Anonymous)]

I'm afraid this is incorrect. The appendices do not say it was Arwen who would not wait. It was still Elrond who laid this edict on Aragorn. But Elrond does this twice and the first time had nothing to do with Arwen. And Elrond specifically says he loves Aragorn when he tells him he has to wait. I definitely think if they had followed the books, modern audiences could see him as the concerned father he was -- for both Aragorn and Arwen. I just don't see any justification for the change at all.

Re: Changing a Character for an Adaption

[philstar22]

Really? I guess I need to read the appendices again. My book copy doesn't have them for some reason. I'm not really sure I see the difference, then, if both versions have him made them wait.

Re: Changing a Character for an Adaption

[(Anonymous)]

Because in the book, there's no suggestion that Elrond doesn't support his daughter's choice. He makes them wait until the world isn't threatened with Sauron anymore but he doesn't stop them from seeing each other or anything. In the film, it's made out that he purposefully misled Arwen about the child they would have and their future happiness. That scene he had with her where he tells her about her future suffering and she ends up crying is manipulative and dickish on his part and not what book!Elrond would do.