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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-10-13 07:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #2841 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2841 ⌋

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iggy: (Default)

Re: Okay, I'm confused by this thread

[personal profile] iggy 2014-10-14 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
The most popular books among my peers when I was in second to fourth grade were the Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark series. They were popular to the point that we spent our recesses forming clubs based around them. John Bellairs received similar treatment.

After that, Goosebumps came into fashion and then once kids grew out of that they got really into Fear Street and Christopher Pike. The idea that the macabre doesn't appeal to American kids is frankly so false it's bizarre it would even be thought of. Kids ate that up, and I can't imagine that's changed.

Dahl's books are pretty macabre. They deal with child murder on a frequent basis. But that is, if anything, one of the reasons they are popular.
cushlamochree: o malley color (Default)

Re: Okay, I'm confused by this thread

[personal profile] cushlamochree 2014-10-14 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, gosh, yeah. Scary Stories To Tell In The Dark! Goosebumps! Those things were huge. I mean, they weren't as... bitter, maybe, as Dahl could get (and also not nearly as good). But they were still pretty creepy. And, at least in my experience from childhood, kids loved them. The idea that kids weren't reading things because they were dark just doesn't match up with my memories at least.
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Re: Okay, I'm confused by this thread

[personal profile] shortysc22 2014-10-14 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Oh Goosebumps! I still have nightmares from finding the Night of the Living Dummy book in my closet once and the eyes appeared glowing.

Then we also had the TV show Are You Afraid of the Dark? during the same time period as Goosebumps.

Re: Okay, I'm confused by this thread

(Anonymous) 2014-10-14 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
But look what happened to Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark! In the latest edition, the awesomely nightmarish illustrations by Stephen Gammel--you remember, the illustrations that made those books--have been replaced by tame, pretty ones that wouldn't scare anybody.
iggy: (Default)

Re: Okay, I'm confused by this thread

[personal profile] iggy 2014-10-14 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
What does that have to do with kids though? That was the decision of what I assume to be a bunch of clueless adults. Every single person I've come across that grew up with the books and has found out about the illustration change has complained about it. I have a friend that works at a used bookstore and she says that it is impossible to keep the originals on the shelves because parents come in all the time looking for 'the versions with the creepy art' to give to their kids. They remember how much they loved that and want to pass it on.

People complained about the illustrations back when the books were at their peak, and they were popularly 'banned books', but if anything that just exacerbated their popularity among children.

I'm not saying that adults in this country don't overreact to the macabre being shown to children, but kids themselves eat it up, which is what I find odd about OP's secret, because it conflates the opinions of a few conservative adults with the children that the books are actually targeted toward.

Re: Okay, I'm confused by this thread

(Anonymous) 2014-10-14 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, of course kids had nothing to do with ruining Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark--I'm sure no kids were consulted about the decision!

I wonder now, though: did the clueless adults want to change the illustrations because they feared that children would be traumatized by the dark and macabre ones? Or did they want to change the illustrations because they were afraid that children liked the dark and macabre ones too much?
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Re: Okay, I'm confused by this thread

[personal profile] melissatreglia 2014-10-15 03:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I read Bone Chillers as a kid, too. "Little Pet Shop of Horrors" gave me the willies, and I loved it.