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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-12-18 05:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #347 ]


⌈ Secret Post #347 ⌋

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Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, [ 1 2 3 4 ] not!secrets, [ 1 ] not!fandom, [ 1 ] too big.
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#30

(Anonymous) 2007-12-19 08:04 am (UTC)(link)
Can't agree with this at all.

Martha was more intelligent perhaps and maybe even a little more resourceful but that doesn't make her instantly better for him than Rose. Watching series 3 I had two reactions. 1. Oh ffs why cheapen Martha's character with this obsessive unrequited love business?! and 2. If he wasn't comparing Martha to Rose he was just complaining at her and getting frustrated with her. I mean, wtf?!

How does that make her "better for him" than Rose? She was just the most pathetic character. I'm not being a rabid Doctor/Rose fan, I geninely believe she could of been so much more--an equal--something more "Old Who" where the focus was back on the sci-fi and not the relationships. But RTD (God I wish Americans would stop calling him Rusty -.-) wanted to show how scarred the Doctor was from losing Rose and seems the only way he saw to do that was by bringing in someone who was one big plot device to challenge his feelings and ultimately fail.

I think 'Tooth and Claw' from the second series had elements of Rose's reactions and attitude that showed exactly why the Doctor fell in love with her. She's just like him in the face of danger--fearless and mesmerized by everything around her, she lives for the life with him because she feels there is nothing left behind her. Even in the most dangerous of situations they have moments of somewhat inhuman amusement and what life has thrown their way.

Sure, it's not a good way to be and like Rose's mother warned, she might end up one day not even being her self, a byproduct of living a dark life wearing a carefree smile, but she's willing to take that risk to be with the man she loves as long as she can. The Doctor, I strongly believe, feels the same way for her.
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Re: #30

[identity profile] bloody-american.livejournal.com 2007-12-19 08:18 am (UTC)(link)
How does that make her "better for him" than Rose?

It doesn't. That's why it's called a personal opinion. Personal opinions don't follow any form of logic, they're irrational to some and reasonable to others.

Wake up and smell the common sense.

Re: #30

(Anonymous) 2007-12-19 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you need to wake up and smell the discussion my friend.

I was asking what they base their opinion on when it seems there is very little to support it. Most people want the Doctor to be with Martha because they don't like (or are secretly jealous of) Rose since her relationship with the Doctor is something new in Who and many people don't like the change and see Martha like a more traditional companion.

I would agree, a blast from the past would be nice, but they added all this unrequited wank and ruined a potenially interesting character. I'm glad she's gone... bring on Christmas Day! (If Kylie falls for the Doctor I'm going to bang my head on a desk though. -.-)
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Re: #30

[identity profile] bloody-american.livejournal.com 2007-12-20 06:17 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, well it's not really a discussion if someone is simply just stating an opinion like the poster up there was. I don't get how them stating that they think Martha is better is saying anything other than that. Why you felt the need to point out the reasons why Rose is better for the Doc is completely beyond me. (Personally I like Rose but I've never been into shipping Dr. Who so... for me the point is moot.)

I was asking what they base their opinion on when it seems there is very little to support it.

I get that but sometimes the answer really just is "just because" and not that I am trying to speak for the poster (because I don't know or care who it is) but the why in this instance doesn't seem to matter.

That's all I'm trying to get at.