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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-10-17 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #2845 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2845 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Xena Warrior Princess]


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(Fullmetal Alchemist, Welcome To Night Vale)


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[AV Club]


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06. [ SPOILERS for How to Train Your Dragon 2 ]
[ WARNING for incest ]



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[Gone Girl]


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08. [ WARNING for sexual abuse ]

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(Anonymous) 2014-10-17 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but it also diminishes Ward's own acts of evil and paints him as a victim instead of willing perpetrator. I am so sick of that trope. The only reason people are trying it is because Ward is a pretty boy.

(Anonymous) 2014-10-17 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
He was a victim and a perpetrator. Ward's looks have nothing to do with it and people need to stop saying that.

But no matter what, he's still a lifelong abuse victim and we saw it on screen so it'd be nice if people stopped blindly ignoring what Garrett did to Ward.

(Anonymous) 2014-10-17 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
da

a victim instead of willing perpetrator

those things aren't mutually exclusive. that doesn't mean that being a victims necessarily excuses being a perpetrator, but you can still be a victim while also being someone who commits terrible acts

(Anonymous) 2014-10-18 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
This.

(Anonymous) 2014-10-18 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
+1. Yes, I don't even watch the show, but IAWTC. I don't know why so many people frame these issues as if it must be an "either/or" option.

(Anonymous) 2014-10-18 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
*raises hand*

I agree with you. And LOL at all the Ward stans swooping in to defend their woobie. Yes, yes, we all get that it's possible to be both a victim and a willing perpetrator. But the victimized pretty-boy baddie is fucking old, already. You're right - it has everything in the goddamned world with him being a hot male. If it were a female, a black man, hell even a pretty but gay man, he'd just be the evils and forget it.

Fucking fandom, man. I love this show to pieces, but I'm so glad I'm not participating in fandom. And I'm gonna be so pissed if/when they "redeem" Ward.

(Anonymous) 2014-10-18 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
I'm one of the people who said that a person can be both, but I don't really care about Ward (I've only seen one episode; I just wanted to read the thread to see why people thought he was sexually abused). I just thought it seems like ayrt was making a weird generalization

(Anonymous) 2014-10-18 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
one of the people outright said that being a victim doesn't excuse being a perpetrator (and others agreed with thm), which doesn't really sound like a stan defending their woobie

(Anonymous) 2014-10-18 12:05 pm (UTC)(link)
You have a really bizarre idea of what "stans swooping in to defend their woobie" look like.