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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-10-26 03:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #2854 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2854 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[+Anima]


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[Dara O'Briain, QI]


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[Stargate Atlantis]


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[Ace Attorney Investigations]


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[Professor Layton vs. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney]


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[Naruto]


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[Nick Cave]


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[Gotham]


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[Bleach]


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[BBC Sherlock]


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[Suikoden Tierkreis]


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[Wicked Science]


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[Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.]


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[Maddie Ziegler, Chandelier]












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(Anonymous) 2014-10-27 11:29 am (UTC)(link)
That's presuming the cause is girls not seeing women doing comedy and not most women not giving a fuck.

(Anonymous) 2014-10-27 02:49 pm (UTC)(link)
... because they've been taught from birth that they're not funny, why would they 'give a fuck?'
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[personal profile] ariakas 2014-10-27 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Given that in societies where there's no stigma against women in comedy (e.g. Japan) there's a much greater proportion of comedians who are female, that's pretty damn strong evidence that this is cultural.

Also more depressing sociological studies that when men and women submit jokes anonymously, they are judged by a randomly selected audience to be roughly equal in humor, yet when they're submitted with names attached the audience judges those jokes given the names of female authors - even when these names were switched and put on the jokes of actual male authors - as significantly less funny. Worse, when the results of the anonymous test were revealed, after a waiting period the audience began to attribute the highest rated jokes, regardless of who wrote them, to male authors.

Face it: comedy isn't weightlifting, bruh. This really is one of those cases like music, where orchestras swore up and down that they didn't hire as many women because they just weren't as good, yet when given a blind audition their "expert interviewers" couldn't tell the damned difference. It's all social bias at play. Of course we now know the music thing is horseshit, and we expect our orchestras to have women musicians in them, but historically they were excluded and it was commonly rationalized away as something men were inherently superior at, and as a result has few women try out and even fewer make it. Hopefully some decades from now we'll find it equally bizarre that the same stigma once kept women out of comedy shows.

(Anonymous) 2014-10-27 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
But that doesn't make any sense. Why would being interested in comedy be a gendered thing? (Hint: it isn't. There are women struggling to make it in comedy right now, and they absolutely give a fuck.) This argument is like those absurd assertions about why there aren't more women in the STEM fields. Oh, it's because girls don't like math!

Yeeeeeah, how about no.