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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-01 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2860 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2860 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-11-01 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I think this is probably true of novel-length fiction, but when it comes to fanfic I've read 500 word slice-of-life drabbles where nothing happens that still manage to be beautifully executed and full of vividly observed life.

Maybe that's something OP's friend's work lacks? And what would that even be, on a "you need to do more of this" level? Agree with upthread comment that it's very hard to define.

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[personal profile] intrigueing 2014-11-01 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I think what you describe is the vignette/drabble version of the ayrt's term "story" -- drabbles don't have a sequence of actions, but they have a brief action/premise/idea that has the same thought-provoking/compelling effect that the ayrt is talking about.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-01 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Idea, yes!

But I think it's worth noting for OP and OP's friend that it doesn't necessarily have to be conflict or challenge, that the expression of an idea can be as engaging as anything else. And if OP's friend did start off with smaller works (assuming they're writing longer length fic atm) then it might be easier for them to condense that into something deeper rather than get too complex right off the bat?

If they are writing short, then maybe the converse is true and they're trying to stuff way too much into a single idea.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-02 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
True.

I've spent years stuffing too many ideas into my short fics. It never ends well. Focus is the key.

Conversely, longer fics without a compulsive goal for the characters to aim towards gets boring fast.

There's a reason why crime fic and romances are so popular. Both are great multipurpose bare bones for a story, to provide instant drive and motivation for the characters.