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Are there any characters in your fandom like this? They might very well have legitimate sympathetic characteristics or a painful backstory but they get a huge amount of sympathy or focus from the fandom -- even compared to characters that have it way worse.

I was thinking about this because one thing that irritates me a bit about MCU fandom is just how often Tony Stark is cast in this role. I mean, the guy had a neglectful and distant father which is no small thing. But basically every other Avenger has a backstory that's ten times worse (except maybe Thor). So it kind of bugs me that the fandom coos over him so much. Not that he doesn't deserve sympathy -- just that it kind of stands out given how much he gets compared to others who have suffered comparatively more.

Not as bad as Loki though.

Anyone like this in your fandom?

Ugh, Ward from Agents of SHIELD. Yo read most of the fic he is just a confused little girl who had the big mean Garret take complete control of her life, and everyone must love and hug Ward.

Haha, I think one of the only things I know about Agents of Shield is that there's a character called Ward who has a lot of fangirls and is a giant woobie.

Yeah, I don't know how people can defend Ward after the FitzSimmons thing. Other actions before that could have been justified somehow, but that one really showed his loyalties and personality. Groomed by Garret or not, there were ways he could have avoided that, and he just didn't care.

(Of course, all this said? I really want his brother to be an even bigger bad guy.)

You know there are fans and ficcers who think that FitzSimmons owe him forgiveness because of his woobiefactor, and are supposed to be in the wrong for being mad at him.

I swear he could rape a puppy then eat it, then rape the poo made of puppy chunks, and people would still love him and say the puppy was asking for it.

Tony Stark and Loki, yes. I like Tony!woobie and all the angst. I'm kinda 'meh' about Loki.

Who else, let me think... Robin Hood. Guy Gisborn is often woobie. In Whitechapel Chandler is not that much of a woobie as fandom makes him.

Eridan. He's whiny and needy and has a nice character design, so people identify with him.
People like to forget that he killed the one person and ex-girlfriend who put up with him and wanted to rat out everyone he knew to the bad guy, who would have killed them all.

I hate how people woobify the entitled, privileged asshole. His fans love to give him "woobie points" of other characters in fic, like mutant blood, being enslaved, threatened and sexualized by their society.

And personally it irks me how people ship him with his ex-girlfriend and my fav to coddle him and forgive his "neediness". Which is the only flaw that he gets to keep in most fics. At the same time the characters get villified for turning him down in canon.
It reminds me of my diva bully who wanted me to be grateful when they didn't treat me like shit once in a while. When I kept my grudge I was the bad one. Like they were entitled to "forgiveness", without changing their actual asshole behaviour.

Yeah I think Eridan is the one character in Homestuck where I just straight-up do not understand why anyone likes him

there are other characters I like less but at least I can understand people who dig them, Eridan just does not make sense

yeah... the only angle I can now see (that I notice with other characters as well) is that they identify with his neediness/lonliness.

But that gets covered by so many other characters as well, especially Karkat. And those mostly have better reasons.

Sherlock Holmes, particularly the RDJ and Cumberbunny incarnations.

Tony Stark in 616 fandom is annoyingly woobified too. As I recall, a good deal of the post-Civil War Steve/Tony fics made Tony as sad and pitiable as possible, while making Steve more of the non-understanding douche.

I don't read much Tony centric fic so I don't know how badly he gets the woobie treatment but I do see it a little bit, but yeah Loki is ridiculously woobified in fandom and as much as I like the guy I tend to avoid fic centered around him because of it.

Among my friends and the fandoms I'm in on tumblr, it happens to any female character who does the same things for the same reasons the fandom tells everyone not to woobify or defend male characters for.

Cersei Lannister. Apparently anyone who dislikes her character is sexist.

Loki is God-King of the Woobies. I think it'll be a while before he's dethroned.

Anders. Sure, his backstory is sympathetic, but it doesn't actually absolve him of responsibility for mass murder.

This. I didn't really like what happened to Anders' character in DA II but I figured that I could at least find a bunch of fic that gave an interesting exploration of his character, fucked up choices and all...instead I found a million fics where he's a poor defenseless little woobie who secretly cries when big, mean Fenris picks on him. I...probably should've expected that.

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