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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-02 03:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2861 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2861 ⌋

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Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-11-03 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
But maybe they should be. I mean, I'm not like OP, in that I'm a pretty huge shipper. I'd welcome some measure of quality control, however.
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Re: OP

[personal profile] iggy 2014-11-03 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
Why? Fandom isn't a club. Shouldn't anyone be welcome to express their love of a series through writing regardless of their skills?

I don't mind people making smaller archives that are invitation only/audition only, but a mainstream archive like ao3 or ff.net? No way.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-11-03 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
Of course they should. But people who write original fiction are also welcome to express themselves regardless of their skills, yet it's expected that they won't be published certain places unless their works reach a certain level of quality.

I can see the logic in having places that are more exploratory and general and having the archives be about quality over quantity.
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Re: OP

[personal profile] iggy 2014-11-03 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
People aren't being paid to write fanfic nor do they have to pay to read it? I think this is false equivalency. Of course work you PAY to read should be filtered for a modicum of quality, but free to post and free to read writing posted on the internet? Anyone should be free to post to major archives, provided their work isn't deliberate trollfic/breaks rules or some other such.

While it's important for fanfic archives to cater toward readers, it's even more important in my opinion for them to be a welcoming place for writers. They're the ones doing the work.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-11-03 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
The key phrase here is "certain places." People who write original fic can still publish it, the difference is that you're not paying to read their work, or supporting them in any way.

You're assuming fanfic is the same as original fic, and saying that fanfic sites should have some sort of quality control when there's no incentive to do so. You're saying that other people should put in a lot of work into changing a site's purpose and workings for no reason other than the benefit of you and people like you, it's very naive way of thinking but it does show how spoiled you've been by the existence of fic/free published writing.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-11-03 01:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I've learned a lot from seeing all of the assumptions in many of these comments.

It's a good thing. I'm not going to assume so many things in the future when I come across anons saying ridiculous things, because you really just cannot know.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-11-03 10:05 am (UTC)(link)
I've been a member of invite only archives. The fic was just as bad there as anywhere else, with the added fun of cliques.

One of the best genficcers I know applied for an invite to a "quality" genfic comm and was turned down.

My own fic on a gated archive was "corrected" by the archive beta who didn't know punctuation that well or have a wide vocabulary.

Quality control archives just don't work. There's a reason they fell out of favour.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-11-03 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Most of my points have already been made (that fanfic isn't paid and you can choose not to read it without any energy or loss expended on your part), but there's also who decides on this mythical level of quality that would make you happy? A set of fans who have naturally have their own biases? Voting? By committee? You? What if the person choosing the quality has totally opposing taste to you? Will it still be quality, or would you demand yet another archive to cater to your taste?

Publishers don't even choose on quality, they choose on what they think will sell. That's why there's some equally terrible published original fiction.