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Except for where a lot of people seem to conflate being content with "not working n any problems ever."

Let's look at what ambition means.

"1. an earnest desire for some type of achievement or distinction, as power, honor, fame, or wealth, and the willingness to strive for its attainment.

2. the object, state, or result desired or sought after.

3. desire for work or activity; energy."

People are confusion ambition with something else.

Basically people here don't want to hold up a deadbeat.

Nailed it in one.

Then they should learn to say "no deadbeats" instead of "I want someone with ambition!" when they clearly won't like someone who's super ambitious, either.

No they really wouldn't, because chances are a truly ambitious person would think they were the deadbeat instead.

How about a big NO? Both to arguing from the dictionary definition of the word, and for (apparently deliberately) missing my point.

I didn't even suggest that being content was a bad thing, or that ambition always equals having a contingency plan in place or addressing problems. I know perfectly well that ambitious people often ignore serious problems (like relationship problems, for instance) because they're too busy forging ahead on their narrowly-defined road to success. But I do think that lack of ambition goes hand in hand with the things that I've mentioned--the attitude that smooth sailing is the best thing in life, and that there's no need to be concerned for the future because it'll all work itself out in the end. Usually it works out because someone else has put in the energy and care to fix the problem.

NAYRT

I don't think ambition is the word you're looking for though. Ambition does suggest, as per the definition, seeking to attain something bigger than one has already. It's a desire for advancement, a desire for specific goals.

I think the things you have issues with are laziness and complacency, and ambitious isn't the opposite of either of those.

I think you might be looking more for "enterprise" or "initiative" or "motivation" than "ambition" as you can have all three of those without any overarching or advancing goal in mind.

That isn't ambition. It's not just the dictionary definition, it's the actual meaning. That is what people mean by ambition. your problem is with complacency, and not contentment. you're like one of those people who thinks irregardless is a word and will keep using it despite it not being one.

The problem with using a dictionary definition is that most words carry a connotative meaning that the dictionary definition doesn't encompass. But even so, I see that this particular definition--even though it stresses desire for "power, honor, fame and wealth"--also includes "energy" and "the desire for work or activity." This is closer, probably, to the connotative meaning most people are thinking of when they say they could not consider a LTR with someone who lacked ambition.

At the same time, someone earlier in this thread--maybe you?--drew a false dichotomy between ambition and contentment. They're not in opposition; you can be contented with some portion of your lot in life, yet at the same time be ambitious in the sense of continually striving for excellence or achievement, for some larger goal than simply getting by. And there also isn't a bright line between contentment and complacency either, especially since most complacent people would probably prefer to regard themselves as contented; it sounds nobler.

we get it, you clearly have/had issues with some complacent mooch in your life and thus are projecting like crazy.

it still doesn't make "ambitious" mean what you think it should mean.

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