[ SECRET POST #2863 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2863 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Zen Pencils]


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03.
[The Prince of Egypt]


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04.
[Walking Dead]


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[The Penguins of Madagascar & The Invisible Pink Unicorn]


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06.
[Transformers: Robots in Disguise 2015]


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07.
[Sleepy Hollow]


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08.
[Holly Madison]


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09.
[Sergio Perez, Formula 1]















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Comments

[ibbity]

I didn't say it was GOOD that the Egyptian kids were killed. I said that a) people LOVE to use their dying to paint the Egyptians as perfect angels; b) these people also castigate the abused slaves for escaping and for their asking divine aid to do so; and c) Ramses was warned repeatedly that terrible things would happen if he didn't let the slaves go and he chose to ignore those warnings even as the terrible things were happening to his people, which in my book brings him in for a share of the blame, especially as he had a fresh chance after each new terrible thing to put an end to the whole thing by freeing the slaves.

[(Anonymous)]

I kinda feel like the whole plagues thing was just as much Ramses' fault because he was warned like a billion times about it and was just like "meh whatevs bring it on." But I've never seen anyone claim genocide or what have you about this movie who wasn't completely ignoring the murder of the Hebrew babies and claiming it solely of the Egyptian children.

Now you've seen one.

I don't agree with what Ramses was defending, slavery and killing babies is horrible, but I can't agree with what Moses and his God did in order to make that stop. You have a fucking all-powerful God on your side, and he decides killing more babies is the answer. This movie had no good guys.

[ariakas]

But Old Testament Biblegod is always down for some good old fashioned baby-killing. He knows an opportunity when he sees one.

The only way to escape is to be righteous, unless he's really hankering for some baby-killing so he "hardens your heart" so that you sin anyway, or he gets bored one day, takes Satan up on a bet, and murders your whole family.

[(Anonymous)]

Wait, who loves to paint the Egyptians as perfect angels? I've literally never heard that. Only (rightly) that this is a shitty story with no morals because God is a psychopath.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

I think Rameses is sympathetic - it's clear that his dad messed him up badly (honestly, I think Seti is the villain of the story), that he could have been a good person, if only circumstances had been different. You can understand why he acts like he does and it's not because he's evil and likes being evil. But that doesn't make his actions excusable in anyway. You can lament that he never learnt better, you can point at his father and blame him, but it doesn't change the fact that Rameses did terrible, evil things of his own free will.

[(Anonymous)]

Ramses did terrible things, yes, I agree. Whether in the context of the movie you can understand his characterization or not is, I suppose, another thing. Another thing is is that he inherited a status quo, it's probably morally easier to uphold a barbaric institution just because things have always been that way, than it is to implement that institution in the first place.

But God, and Moses by proxy, was pretty much just as bad. I shouldn't think the slaughter of children is ever an acceptable means to accomplish anything. If God really did have the power to murder people, he should've had the power to magically free the slaves anyway, or spontaneously convert the Egyptians or something. Pointing the gun at the children isn't particularly endearing