[ SECRET POST #2865 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2865 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Once Upon a Time]


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[Transformers: Prime]


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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[Malcolm Tucker, The Thick of It]


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[Once Upon a Time]


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[Flight Rising]


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[Transformers: Prime]


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[Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.]
















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Comments

[fscom]

06. http://i.imgur.com/jHGyejq.png
[Once Upon a Time]

[kallanda_lee]

I felt similarly, but frankly it's rare I actually enjoy child characters. Sometimes I do feel OUAT is going full force for the soccer mom target group, though.

[(Anonymous)]

The only people on my office who talk about this show are soccer moms, so....

[kallanda_lee]

Well there you go...

[(Anonymous)]

Snow's dad is very clearly portrayed as an asshole. He's not supposed to be a good guy at all. Even Snow's mom is is not 100% pure good (more like 90%, but still).

The theme is that no one is 100% evil or good and plenty of bio parents were assholes in this universe too, see: Regina's mother, Rumple & Milena, Rumple's dad, Emma... I think you'll find way more bad parents than good, here, actually.

[(Anonymous)]

"Snow's dad is very clearly portrayed as an asshole."

Huh? Leopold is a really decent guy. He cares about his subjects, gave Sidney his freedom, and was willing to forgive Cora if she hadn't lied to him.

Remember that everything Regina and Henry Sr told Sidney was a lie meant to incite him to murder the king. Leopold's only crime was reading Regina's diary and since she *wanted* him to do that to make sure her plan worked, I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt on that one. Two episodes before this one, the show made a point of telling us all about compulsion spells that could be put on objects to ensure someone was drawn to them.

[(Anonymous)]

There was that later episode, the first Tinkerbell one, where he ignored Regina and treated her like shit and was clearly still in love with his late wife and didn't care if Regina know it. Oh, and kept her trapped in the palace.

He was mostly a decent guy, but he couldn't get past his love for his dead wife to be even show basic human decency to his new wife.

None of that remotely excuses Regina's actions, of course. But he was horrible to her.

[solticisekf]

Ah, the old 'step parents are bad in this series'. Many have despared at it. Like the boy have known his mother for only a week and already he's on her side. On the other hand Regina acted like he was crazy which is not something a mother should do.
(I've watched only first eps, before the death of that one character)

[(Anonymous)]

In regards to the second part, have you not read fairytales? Adoptive/Step-parents are pretty always bad/evil...

[(Anonymous)]

Although in the oldest Grimm versions (Snow White and Hansel and Gretel, off the top of my head), some of them were biological mothers--they consciously changed them to stepmothers when they were marketing them as kiddie lit, not folklore.

[(Anonymous)]

IDK, Geppetto/ Pinocchio, George/ James, and Rumplestiltskin/ Spinsters are all presented as positive adoptive relationships. Regina/ Henry and Regina/ Snow are both abusive as fuck, but she’s the Evil Queen, so what do you expect?

I’m just sick of the abusive parent trope being used to excuse a villain’s actions. I swear that Leopold and the Hatter are the only decent biological fathers on this damn show. Well, them and pre-Dark One Rumplestiltskin. Sometimes I feel like I’m watching Adam and Eddie’s therapy sessions instead of a TV show.

[(Anonymous)]

Charming's decent. Awkward, since he's dealing with a daughter who's his own age, but decent.

[(Anonymous)]

Oops! I forgot about Charming. Yes, I totally agree. He's a good dad. Actually I consider him a far better parent to Emma than Snow is.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah... it doesn't really get better. The whole show is just how everyone's related to each other and how messed up they are.

There are less children as the seasons go on though. Henry gets older and I don't think the writers knew what to do with him, so he's barely in it now.

[i_paint_the_sky]

They do tone back the evil adoptive mother thing with Regina in the later seasons, to the point where Henry calls both Emma and Regina "Mom." It was frustrating as all hell to get to that point though, because one week Henry wanted a relationship with Regina, the next week he wanted to get away from her.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly what show have you been watching where you think that bio parents = good and adopted parents = bad?

Rumple and Milah were pretty bad bio parents (nutjob Dark One and child abandonment). Cora is arguably the worst parent on the show and she's a bio mom but even she has some pretty stiff competition in Peter Pan. Cinderella and Belle had shitty parents too. Jiminy Cricket had crappy bio parents. Hell, even Red's mom was a total bitch (pun totally intended).

There really aren't that many adoptive parents in the first place and most of them (aside from Regina and Henry) are overwhelmingly positive.

The show very much makes the point that you make your own family. Red and Snow. Pinocchio and Gepetto. Rumple and his crazy spinsters. Dude, even SNOW goes around forgiving THE FREAKING EVIL QUEEN for all the things even though Regina's spent the better part of her her life trying to kill Snow. They're not biologically related but to Snow they're 'family'.

It's the bio relationships that are seriously fucked.

I'm sick of people using the argument that OUAT sheds a bad light on adoption and step parents. Just because the main adoptive relationship is abusive and crazy doesn't mean it's making a blanket statement about it. When a kid is adopted by the Evil Queen, historically a notoriously bad post child for step / adopted parenting anyway - who has a history of abusing and attempting to kill her non biological children (and other completely unrelated children), it's not a stretch to think that she might continue in that direction. It's not a commentary on adoption and step parenting in the real world, it's the Evil Freaking FAIRYTALE Queen.