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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-06 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #2865 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2865 ⌋

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[Once Upon a Time]


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[Transformers: Prime]


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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[Malcolm Tucker, The Thick of It]


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[Once Upon a Time]


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[Flight Rising]


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[Transformers: Prime]


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[Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.]
















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Re: OP here

(Anonymous) 2014-11-07 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
I guess what I'm asking is, are you annoyed with people finding what he did understandable? Or are you annoyed at people who pretend like his actions are excused by his backstory? Or both?

Because I think there's a big distinction there.

I don't mind if someone sees Ward's actions as understandable (given his past) and wants him to admit to his wrongdoing and try to redeem himself. They're acknowledging that he's done evil and needs to face the consequences of his actions.

Where I get annoyed (and I'm guessing this is true with you as well) is when people act as though he literally had no choice and that he's not morally bound by his actions because of his tragic backstory. That's what I find BS. Ward may have been influenced, but he still had free will. Bucky Barnes he was not.

Re: OP here

(Anonymous) 2014-11-07 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Both, a bit?

It definitely is not excusable for me, I think we agree there. And understandable, well that only goes so far. In the sense that he could have made other choices. That other people very actively make those choices not to become as bad, or even worse, as their abusers were.

I understand cause and effect, and that his past might have lead to his actions, but actually I suspect he might have been not quite right even before the abuse, which for the record is still alleged at this point, but let's assume it's true.

What I mean it's not like it's inevitable destiny. To me, it's an explanation, but an excuse.