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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-11-08 03:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #2867 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-11-09 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Pine and Quinto have absolutely ENORMOUS chemistry together. To be honest, I enjoy their interviews together probably more than the films. So it probably helps their onscreen interactions. With the pair of Quinto and Saldana though -- they're just such BFFs that, while it's clear they care about each other, it doesn't really translate into the films as a romantic angle. At least for me.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-09 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
I hope you aren't one of those who think that Zachary homosexuality means he can have chemistry only with men.

I, for one, think his chemistry with Saldana is just fine. The pair was so controversial that that the fact they became so popular among critics and fans is in part due to the chemistry between the actors for sure.
I like the way they play Spock/Uhura because it's subtle and understated like there is intimacy but it's not in your face and it's loving and different from the token romances I sede in the movies. Wouldn't make sense differently for the characters, tbh.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-09 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, he's had chemistry on loads of the TV shows he works on. I'm just saying that because he and Saldana have such a BFF vibe during interviews it doesn't really do anything to help further the romance aspect. And the writers for the reboots (unlike those TV shows) aren't good enough to really bring the romance to life and make it believable (in my opinion).

I never found Spock/Uhura to be very intimate personally. They definitely like and care about each other, but there's no passion to it and it definitely comes across as a token romance (to me). The fact that their conflicts are rather…well…poorly handled also does nothing for me.

But to each their own.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-09 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
It's interesting you think that intimacy means passion
Sure it can be that too (but then your comment about Pine and Quinto contraddicts that b/c they don't have it, unless you equate violence and antagonism to passion) but intimacy is a different thing for me
The way Spock touched her forehead with his, or embraced her back when she hugged him and his face fell in her neck, is intimate to me and more than the kiss itself. It's intimate because with little gestures I get the distinct feeling that they are an item. It's also relatable on a human level. You get the intimacy all the more when you see yourself in the character and a gesture they make with their SO.
The history of his character would make 'passion' look over the top and Ooc too. The vulcan control and restraint makes it so that the way he touches her is more telling than if he were a human too.

The fact that the actors are friends in real life I can't see why it should be hindrance for their on screen relationship. Pine and Quinto are friends too and you in fact think it helps their fictional interactions.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-09 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Nope. Those were two points. They don't seem intimate to me mostly because they don't really communicate all that well. The lack of passion is a separate issue.

The "intimacy" you describe reads purely physical to me. But emotional intimacy I don't see between them. Spock, for example, shows the most emotional intimacy and vulnerability when he confesses to Kirk that he does not know how to choose not to feel and that he is failing. With Uhura, I always get the sense that he's brushing off her concerns. And when she gives him the silent treatment, that doesn't help things either.
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2014-11-09 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow the Spirk is trying so hard here. I agree with the OP above you. His intimacy with Uhura is far more telling with her than with Kirk.

(Anonymous) 2014-11-10 09:55 am (UTC)(link)
Da
Noooo what made you think they are a spirk fan? Lol!
I feel like I'm reading a different version of the same monologue the whole thread. The agenda and bias couldn't be more obvious.

They must have missed the scenes where he kissed her in front of Kirk and Scotty and tenderly nuzzled his forehad to her to reassure her. Or when he looked at her while saying that earth was his only home now and she smiled knowingly.
Oh yeah 'he's brushing off her concerns' so much that he more or less admitted that he loves her in front of Kirk and the two other officers, just because it's the easiest thing to do for a vulcan, no big deal. In the 09 movie, he wanted Kirk, of all the ppl, to tell her he loves her if he died in the mission.

Only this spirk fan could even try saying there is more intimacy between Spock and Kirk than b/w him and his girlfriend. And that disingenous comment about the actors having no chemistry because they are friends irl man!
This is a text book example of slash fans shitting on canon het couples to seek validation.

Btw, the scene where Kirk died in the last movie is the writers copying tos K/S without caring about the integrity of their own characters. Ppl in the cinema were laughing (that khan scream man)
The fact they purposely left McCoy out of it is very telling too.
Of course the spirk fans make excuses for that now, after having called Spock OOC for caring about Uhura or kissing her.
They want him to be in character and vulcan with her only but when he doesn't show blatant emotion they say he doesn't care. SMDH I can't with the hypocrisy



(Anonymous) 2014-11-09 10:07 am (UTC)(link)
+1