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Re: Blown out the water by Spock/Uhura!
(Anonymous) 2014-11-09 03:36 pm (UTC)(link)I feel like you're both too easily giving Kirk a free pass, though.
For one, he was wrong for cheating the test and he compromised the simulation for the other cadets. What if they could take part to only one simulation? Kirk then ruined an academy test for them all with consequences that could affect their curriculum. Spock was in his rights to call him out on that the way the academy protocol required him to do: in public.
Yes, the thing about his father was bad but no one in the room would think that Spock, a vulcan, mentioned that to be gratuitously mean. He did have a point and was trying, albeit coldly, to make him understand why he didn't get the purpose of the test.
Kirk is constantly insubordinate with his superior officers and he isn't really likable with Spock either so at the very least the feeling was mutual from both parts.
Spock was wrong for attacking him but don't forget that Kirk did provoke him. Why you think no one tried to stop them? Even McCoy, his best friend, didn't side with him there.
Screaming in Spock's face that he didn't love his mother that he had JUST watched die without being able to help her was despicable from krik's part, moreso because he did that to steal the captain's chair from him when Spock still was the more competent officer for that role. None of the people in that room could know about Kirk's reasons or that he had talked with Spock prime, for what they knew Kirk just took advantage of a tragedy for his own ego and because he couldn't stand Spock. And they lost another captain and had the insubordinate cocky cadet takes his place while earth was in danger.
Re: Blown out the water by Spock/Uhura!
(Anonymous) 2014-11-09 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)A professor using a student's dead father to make a POINT is despicable and it's NOT AT ALL comparable to what Kirk did after Spock's mother died.
Kirk HAD to get Spock to show how compromised he was. In fact, Spock's older self was the one to insist on that. The freaking fate of Earth and the Federation hung in the balance. Kirk didn't know Spock well enough to know how to get him to admit it, so he used the only thing he had -- the death of Spock's mother -- since he saw the look on Spock's face when he rematerialized on the platform. It was NOT despicable on Kirk's part. It was NECESSARY.
Spock was NOT more competent in that role. He wanted to rejoin the rest of the fleet. And if Kirk hadn't insisted they go after Nero, Earth likely would have been destroyed.
Re: Blown out the water by Spock/Uhura!
(Anonymous) 2014-11-09 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)The kirk apologist here is making me feel like I'm watching an episode of 'Everyone loves Raymond'
The fact that they only like Spock when he's 'nice' with Kirk is not surprising to the least but in the other thread they called Uhura a racist because she wasn't nice with the white guy sexually harassing her. W--t--f. No. No. No.